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Subject: »7250 managers in Sokker!

2016-12-13 22:24:46
Did someone once say: Like it or leave??? Who was it??
2016-12-13 22:31:18
greg said something similar, but more harsh
I don't know if it was first posted on international forum and I know only Polish translation or its source was Polish forum, but the phrase could be translated as "If You don't like it, then fuck off"
2016-12-13 22:36:03
Yup, he posted it on Polish forum.

Worth to point out that the 'fuck off' version in Polish was much harsher than it sounds in English.
2016-12-13 22:45:24
I only wonder about one thing. If technology is evolving so rapidly, why no one else was able to create game like sokker since 2004. It should be so much easier to create it now than 12 years before, or am I wrong?
2016-12-13 22:46:56
There are lots of games like sokker. http://footballstrategy.org/ is a better version of sokker.

The problem is nobody knows about these games because nobody wants to play them anymore. FS has 600 users, it's active since 3 or 4 years.

Only old users want to play browser manager games. The market for such games is dead, people don't waste their time on creating games nobody will play. They create new, modern, different managers games for smarthpones and tablets.
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2016-12-14 01:54:17
It is possible to create soķker analog for tablets and phones
2016-12-14 13:49:14
There is one interfootballmanager.com
2016-12-14 13:50:16
And almost nobody plays it. Still less than 500 installs. They already decided to ignore this project, right?
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2016-12-14 13:52:02
Im not sure why we are so harsh for owners. Sokker is 2 guys hobby that had full time jobs. There is no dev team to hire one dev full time avg is 70k per year ...
2016-12-14 13:53:09
I still play :)
2016-12-14 14:01:01
People are harsh because they have zero knowledge about the market and the costs that DEVs would have if they decided to rewrite the code to modern standards. One user in Poland estimate it to be at least 50k euro - the re-writing only. Add to it improving the match viewer, a proper high end layout and you have a nice number.

So we can estimate that owners would have to invest ~60-70k euro out of their pockets and zero guarantee that they will make the money back (in terms of higher monthly income). It would be a stupid investition.
2016-12-14 14:02:03
+1
2016-12-14 14:16:11
nah,you r far way from the truth
the owner one day deside to give us 3D view,worthless to strategy part,redicilus faces,random results
helping selling the 3D part ofc (plus and Hattrick style users)
the sokker could have 30-40k users
this situation is only the owner fault and nobody else
2016-12-14 14:19:46
there are "financial instruments" to do so.. without putting money in it.
like project financing or crowdfunding..
People buying sokker plus (how many are they? 10k, 5k?) can even decide to pay for it..

the point is if there's a project (does it really matter if it is a profitable one? I don't think so..)
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2016-12-14 14:52:50
this game was popular and the owner gain profit (money)
not coz it was like Hattrick
so the owner is responsible for the changes he made
2016-12-14 15:29:59
People buying sokker plus (how many are they? 10k, 5k?)

You think that there are 10k users with plus when there are 13k all users? :P
The plus user percentage was always between 10% and 15%...so probably max 2k plus users

the point is if there's a project (does it really matter if it is a profitable one? I don't think so..)

Since it's a job not a hobby, then I believe that it does matter if it's profitable...or at least if the profit matches the investment, otherwise it's burning money

@Tolis
the owner one day deside to give us 3D view,worthless to strategy part,redicilus faces,random results
helping selling the 3D part ofc (plus and Hattrick style users)
the sokker could have 30-40k users


so if they didn't add ADDITIONAL 3d matches, then they would have more users?

lol, no