Subject: »9200 managers in Sokker!

Way less time as before, but also way less interested in Sokker as before.

And I am also playing faster app games nowadays. And not feeling connected to games anymore as I had with Sokker. Now I try a game, play it for a number of days, when it is nice a few weeks or month till I get bored or need to spend money to be able to level up. So I delete the game and try something new. Sokker was different, and still keeping my account alive for some reason, eventhough I know it is over.

I know that my idea is a great stupidity but I think that Sokker was born so, from a game of thoughts and after so many years, we are few, we are still playing with it.
I'm sorry I didn't sign up earlier because I used to play Hattrick at school and maybe I would have connected much more to sokker than I do now.

The big difference between hattrick and sokker...
Hattrick has a very large community and a boring game that is constantly getting updates (no upgrades!!)
Sokker has a very small community (much more like a big family, so the community feeling in sokker is more intense, but very slow paced) but we have a very nice game with lots of great features, that only needs an update from time 2 time, that it doesn't get unfortunately... People think sokker will end, but I feel it has limitless potential!! The only thing it needs is an active developper that doesn't change anything about the game, only at the appearance, with maybe some tiny game-changing features

I needed updates when I signed up, because now the world is like Charles Hill said, fast, with frequent updates and that you can receive immediate rewards without waiting.
The game is not dead as many people think, but it takes a drastic action to convince users that in addition to Hattrick, FM, SM, FIFA, PES, Google Play, there is a small alternative called Sokker.
The Browser Game no longer attracts, because with 800€ you can buy or assemble a PC to play games with graphics much heavier than Sokker and with an internet speed for online games, unless you do a great aggressive advertising on various websites as they did World Of Tanks, League of Legend, Age of empires and hope that someone will join.

I think there is much more potential with Sokker. It is a great game that can easy host 100k users if the owners would invest in advertising and would give the website a update. It is a great game but you need to advertise to get new users

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It is a great game but you need to advertise to get new users

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I wonder how this game was developed in 2004 yet 15 years later no one was able to develop similar match engine and the relation between the engine and other parts of the game. One would think it must be much easy now because tools for development must have advanced rapidly.

I agree that the game is really slow at this era. Competition in the football manager game industry has changed and everything is much faster. League games should be at least twice per week and the length of match should be reduced from 20minutes (to 10minutes maybe). Also difficulty has risen enormously. I have started playing several times. And I remember that at the beginning if I really put a lot of the effort I could reach the top division in few months, year, maybe two. But now, with all my experience .. I was able to reach this level after 4years. Imagine the ordinary beginner. Good luck.

It takes so much effort, that If I had to start nowadays, I would not. The difference between old and new teams is just insane. There are so many teams that have hundreds of millions on account and dont know what to do with it. Yesterday I saw 17yr player being sold for 27!! M euro. I spent over 14years in sokker, I can say that I want to celebrate the 15th anniversary and then I will end with the game for good. It is not even that exciting as it was before, playing in the first divison. Many teams are there for a quite a few seasons, even if they are quite inactive. People dont communicate on forums anymore, managers that I knew for many years are quitting. And i stated some reasons above why newcomers wont be staying in the game.

This game never had 100k users, even when there was a big FB campain.

It is not that easy to get started, most will agree. And because many new players just start and spend all money, don't know how to make and/or save tactics, etc, most will quit Sokker the same day.

Only advertisement would never have made Sokker that much more populair as it was at it's peak.

It is hard at the beginning and you need a lot of patience... I think most managers quit easily if they notice that it takes one human year to train players. But I think this is also what Sokker is al about, work hard to build a team and a stadium. It takes several human years. Not just several months.
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you can't quit Sokker slavista, you jus can't... If you quit a part of ur soul will die.. you can only quit the game if the servers are offline and the owner is dead.. xD

Hard at the beginning, takes too long to have a decent team, browser game. Just a few reasons why Sokker will never get up to the 40k users as it had. Even 70k, but that was because of a FB advertisement which was never really used to keep the number of users up. They left as fast as they came.

It is what it is, a hobby of greg which made him a lot of money. And that money is spend on I don't know what, but not to keep Sokker up-to-date or real advanged implementations. A pitty because that is promised when buying Plus, money will be spend on new features.


EDIT: not to mention the countless hours managers have spend trying to convince greg/DEVs things had to change before it was too late and most managers would be gone.

And talking for myself, I don't even want to know how many hours I have spend trying to make Sokker more easy for new managers, mentoring new managers, posting ads all over the web, to show DEVs all the great ideas managers posted on the forums, talking with other managers and staff what could be improved. Unfortunatly, nothing happened.

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The owner can make 5 times more if he wants. But he will have to put some effort and money in it.

The whole game needs to be updated, maybe even completely rewritten, it is still based on Flash.

And believe me, all managers that have tried will tell you the same thing, DEV's don't spend that time on Sokker anymore.

It is what it is, a hobby of greg which made him a lot of money. And that money is spend on I don't know what, but not to keep Sokker up-to-date or real advanged implementations. A pitty because that is promised when buying Plus, money will be spend on new features.

I think it is ok to spend money on something else than new features in Sokker. But I dont think it is ok to have zero communication and no new features at all. This is the reason I dont spend on plus anymore.