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Subject: injury
Its ridiculous, 17 mil player gone for 10 weeks, why is this even possible?
So he got first injury while running and immediately tackled by defender... Its just stupid, I know its very rare but why are injuries stacking? He just got muscle injury and then defender broke his leg, nice.
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So he got first injury while running and immediately tackled by defender... Its just stupid, I know its very rare but why are injuries stacking? He just got muscle injury and then defender broke his leg, nice.
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He had also a big (min. 3 weeks) injury on February and another one (also min. 3 weeks) on April.
The realy big damage happened now , the problem with this player started before 2 seasons.
Like in RL... Or have you never heard about players loosing the rest of the season because an injury???
Or do you prefer a game, where players are always healthy and your team wins all matches?
Please accept reality and accept the fact that this game is close to reality and not to your strictly personal wishes. I am getting very angry with people who try to ruin this game because they want an easier game...
(@ sheep : I use the word "you" but it's not personal for you. It is adressed to everybody who claims about injuries)
The realy big damage happened now , the problem with this player started before 2 seasons.
Like in RL... Or have you never heard about players loosing the rest of the season because an injury???
Or do you prefer a game, where players are always healthy and your team wins all matches?
Please accept reality and accept the fact that this game is close to reality and not to your strictly personal wishes. I am getting very angry with people who try to ruin this game because they want an easier game...
(@ sheep : I use the word "you" but it's not personal for you. It is adressed to everybody who claims about injuries)
well i will keep repeating RL is one thing game where training is based on played min in week another thing and as someone says real life is hard enough why the game should bring more pain.
New users can easily quit the game if something like this happens to them ..
On top in RL you have insurance in players contracts that exist and club gets money for such injuries lots of money ...
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New users can easily quit the game if something like this happens to them ..
On top in RL you have insurance in players contracts that exist and club gets money for such injuries lots of money ...
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Sure, a game where training is based on played min in week is another thing
and that's why injuries on sokker last for 15-30 days and not 2-3 months
RL: 1 year = 12 months = 52 weeks = 365 days
Sokker: 1 season = 16 weeks = 112 days
And now take a look here (also at the right column) and calculate the analogies...
https://www.physioroom.com/injuries/prognosis.php
You see the point?
67 days in sokker are less than a severe Achilles tendonitis or a Fracture dislocation of ankle joint in RL. Do you still claim about the length of injuries?
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Btw, insurance is something that is profitable only for elite clubs. Normal clubs cannot pay high polices, so it's not lots of money, it is making the gap between rich and poor clubs bigger.
If we would implement this feature in sokker, this would have the same effect.
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Svictorov, I usually agree with your ideas and I think we have a lot of common grounds.
To have different opinions on a few topics is also something quite normal.
But mate, the sentence "as someone says real life is hard enough why the game should bring more pain" is for me not an argument, it's rather... I don't know what it is... and I think you will understand my point of view:
(a) The guy who told this has no idea about hardness of life. People who faced hard situations never claim and never speak like that
(b) Life is life. Everything else are stories of the mind...
(c) If this guy wants a game where he will not feel mental pain, he shall play something else. Btw, with such a mentality, I'm afraid he would get second even if he'd play alone...
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and that's why injuries on sokker last for 15-30 days and not 2-3 months
RL: 1 year = 12 months = 52 weeks = 365 days
Sokker: 1 season = 16 weeks = 112 days
And now take a look here (also at the right column) and calculate the analogies...
https://www.physioroom.com/injuries/prognosis.php
You see the point?
67 days in sokker are less than a severe Achilles tendonitis or a Fracture dislocation of ankle joint in RL. Do you still claim about the length of injuries?
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Btw, insurance is something that is profitable only for elite clubs. Normal clubs cannot pay high polices, so it's not lots of money, it is making the gap between rich and poor clubs bigger.
If we would implement this feature in sokker, this would have the same effect.
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Svictorov, I usually agree with your ideas and I think we have a lot of common grounds.
To have different opinions on a few topics is also something quite normal.
But mate, the sentence "as someone says real life is hard enough why the game should bring more pain" is for me not an argument, it's rather... I don't know what it is... and I think you will understand my point of view:
(a) The guy who told this has no idea about hardness of life. People who faced hard situations never claim and never speak like that
(b) Life is life. Everything else are stories of the mind...
(c) If this guy wants a game where he will not feel mental pain, he shall play something else. Btw, with such a mentality, I'm afraid he would get second even if he'd play alone...
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well its normal to have different opinions not all people are same and that is good. And good thing is with you i can have proper discussion.
Ok real life you do not have game every 24h , you do not improve your skills with just playing game do you agree on that? In RL clubs receive compensation for injury in NT or money from insurance companies i does not mean to transfer it 1:1 as in RL it could have its sokker ways to be more fair like
not paying his wage or % of his market value equal for all..
Well im not saying remove all injuries but at least have some protection not same teams to be hit over and over again. Lets free at least friendlies from hard injuries . In RL in friendlies teams avoid hard tackles most of the time right?
Im not a doctor or expert in sports medicine but this is a game has its own rules and all should be followed by those rules not RL... For me main thing in sokker is player improvement through training
and how that affects to match engine ... and having limit of 10 slots is not something in RL exists
Also random in injuries is too much like 10 players in 3 games its a lot i had that in my team and thats why im bit sensitive on this topic in RL as well could happen but when it happen again every season its kinda hard to prevent. In RL you have physios proper preparation for the game we can have things like that to reduce the injuries
And again this is just a game why not to let people have more fun...
There are 2 ways in sokker you can progress transfers or training or balance between those but most of the things in game hit people that train hard.. It takes time to train good player so my vision is people that train most likely will stay longer in the game and we should encourage all to train and be patient . 10 slots limit with combination with high rate injuries is something that can kill even most patient person on the world..
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Ok real life you do not have game every 24h , you do not improve your skills with just playing game do you agree on that? In RL clubs receive compensation for injury in NT or money from insurance companies i does not mean to transfer it 1:1 as in RL it could have its sokker ways to be more fair like
not paying his wage or % of his market value equal for all..
Well im not saying remove all injuries but at least have some protection not same teams to be hit over and over again. Lets free at least friendlies from hard injuries . In RL in friendlies teams avoid hard tackles most of the time right?
Im not a doctor or expert in sports medicine but this is a game has its own rules and all should be followed by those rules not RL... For me main thing in sokker is player improvement through training
and how that affects to match engine ... and having limit of 10 slots is not something in RL exists
Also random in injuries is too much like 10 players in 3 games its a lot i had that in my team and thats why im bit sensitive on this topic in RL as well could happen but when it happen again every season its kinda hard to prevent. In RL you have physios proper preparation for the game we can have things like that to reduce the injuries
And again this is just a game why not to let people have more fun...
There are 2 ways in sokker you can progress transfers or training or balance between those but most of the things in game hit people that train hard.. It takes time to train good player so my vision is people that train most likely will stay longer in the game and we should encourage all to train and be patient . 10 slots limit with combination with high rate injuries is something that can kill even most patient person on the world..
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The problem is the stacking bug... If you re injured on both arm and leg, it s not logical one injury only starts healing after the other is healed.
"Well im not saying remove all injuries but at least have some protection not same teams to be hit over and over again. Lets free at least friendlies from hard injuries . In RL in friendlies teams avoid hard tackles most of the time right?"
Yes, I agree. I agree to protection from hard injuries on friendlies.
"Ok real life you do not have game every 24h , you do not improve your skills with just playing game do you agree on that? In RL clubs receive compensation for injury in NT ..."
"and having limit of 10 slots is not something in RL exists"
Yes, I agree and these are arguments that strengthen your position. ;)
"Also random in injuries is too much like 10 players in 3 games its a lot i had that in my team and thats why im bit sensitive on this topic"
The same happened to Red Bull Leipzig this season. They could win the Bundesliga, but they had many big injuries (link)
This is very rare and it's reasonable to get upset, when something like that happens. However I think that if we make the game easier, we would have less fun (and this is just my opinion and it can be 100% wrong)
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"well its normal to have different opinions not all people are same and that is good. And good thing is with you i can have proper discussion."
I like the way we disagree! :)
I understand your arguments and I admit it, that they seem reasonable also to me.
I am willing to support a change e.g. on protection from hard injuries on friendlies, or on creating a mechanism to compensate injuries in NT.
:)
Yes, I agree. I agree to protection from hard injuries on friendlies.
"Ok real life you do not have game every 24h , you do not improve your skills with just playing game do you agree on that? In RL clubs receive compensation for injury in NT ..."
"and having limit of 10 slots is not something in RL exists"
Yes, I agree and these are arguments that strengthen your position. ;)
"Also random in injuries is too much like 10 players in 3 games its a lot i had that in my team and thats why im bit sensitive on this topic"
The same happened to Red Bull Leipzig this season. They could win the Bundesliga, but they had many big injuries (link)
This is very rare and it's reasonable to get upset, when something like that happens. However I think that if we make the game easier, we would have less fun (and this is just my opinion and it can be 100% wrong)
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"well its normal to have different opinions not all people are same and that is good. And good thing is with you i can have proper discussion."
I like the way we disagree! :)
I understand your arguments and I admit it, that they seem reasonable also to me.
I am willing to support a change e.g. on protection from hard injuries on friendlies, or on creating a mechanism to compensate injuries in NT.
:)
This is very rare and it's reasonable to get upset, when something like that happens. However I think that if we make the game easier, we would have less fun (and this is just my opinion and it can be 100% wrong)
just to add point to this the problem is that new transfer market restrictions will make even harder to react on such situation so if we say lets not make it easy fine but lets not make it super difficult
just to add point to this the problem is that new transfer market restrictions will make even harder to react on such situation so if we say lets not make it easy fine but lets not make it super difficult
new transfer market restrictions will make even harder to react on such situation
Well it is the same for everybody so... just cross the fingers !
Well it is the same for everybody so... just cross the fingers !
Can I complain and cry in this topic? Is that allowd?
2 injuries in a row, 30 days and 25 days, in two league matches, both easy winnings.
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Edited : Clau_Goool
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Sorry devs, I'll not complain anymore.
Both 13 days hahahaha.
Both 13 days hahahaha.