Subject: »Future NT stars (U21) NO ADS

When season change they sligthly enhanced training for youngsters, but yes amazing

I beg to differ....my players's talent has been affected quite a bit , al least to half of them , even younger ones , after the change, so i think it was exactly the opposite.....
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How can a change affect only a half of your youngsters? Either is every youngster or no youngster.

At the beginning they indeed tried to slow down the training which was proven because they messed up - there was first an old-training updated, then they reversed it and used the new one. The effect was that some players popped in the first morning update but didn't pop in the new one so they couldn't even lie that they changed training for slower one...

But they reversed it and youths train very fast now, 16yo can have 3-4 pops in a row after 1 training only. I'm not sure if it's faster, I think it's the same it was before - only change is they messed up the goalkeeper training which is now for some reason definitely the fastest of all trainings.

I'm not sure, I cannot explain it either.
I had really talented players when they were 18-19, and then they made the changes and their talent went to the trash. Im talking about 4-5 weeks to magical pace at 19 and then 14 weeks to divine pace 6 seasons later. Even at skills that should have a fast evolution like playmaker or passing, i still have to wait more than half a season.
Not to mention that after 26 years old, its almost a waste of time to train for profit.

It's normal... it was like that before, old players train much slower.
You said that the talent of you youngsters slowed and now you're talking about training of 25 (?) year olds...

My Drewek has talent around 3.2, popped after 2 to very good [9] and excellent [10] when young. Now at 24yo he needed 6 trainings for outstanding [12] defender.

Btw. can you show me this pop after 14 to divine? at what age it was? Pace slows down much more than rest of skills, that's why it has to be done at youngest possible age...
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I just sold the player a few weeks ago, i dont have the prints anymore , but i bought him at 19 and trained his pace for a while, he only needed 5 weeks to magical and after the changes, his talent became awful, even at passing and playmaker. I've trained hundreds of players in the last 14 years , and I can tell you that isnt normal , even with aging.

You could train a player until 28 yo and he would still pop at a decent rate, now for players over 26 yo its a waste of time.

Yes but thats not what i was saying Either.... I Said for younger players it is slighly faster .... older players is slower yes

I'm not sure about that

Just checked how my top talent Palysz (3x superdivine) popped - at age 26/27 he needed exactly 14 trainings to superdivine pace

Havent seen a massive change in younger players talent...maybe the keeper training is a bit faster....

I had good talent in the past , not extraordinary, and needed 11 weeks to superdivine at 26-27.....they slowed it down probably with at least 25-30% after the age of 26....personal observation...

I'm giving you data from 2014

Pałysz had great talent (ended as 3x superdivine striker with magical playmaker and passing) and as I've said - took him exactly 14 trainings to superdivine pace at 26-27

It's not written from memory, I've checked on forum in my forum entry from 2014

How about divine pace ?
How many weeks to superdivine striker or technique ?

Pace should only be about 10 % slower than technique , 15% slower than striker skill....

I had 7-8 weeks to divine in the past , 10-11 weeks to superdivine pace or technique...nowadays it seems impossible ...
Im usually training players for at least 5-6 seasons , even 8-9, and i can make observations over time....its funny how it takes them a third of the time to pop to 14-15 than to divine or superdivine at the same skill after they hit 25-26 years of age

I can't find that data. It's particularly hard because even if someone posted a screen years ago, it was already deleted from the host so it can't be seen.

And for me info "from memory" has little value because in this matter you need exact data... what age and how many trainings to what level pop... and it's always important to know how long it took for previous and next pop.

Memories can be mistaken, especially if we are talking about pops that happened years ago.

What I can tell that I found, probably best talent possible, Miasojedovas (ended as 5x superdivine MID):
at age 25yo popped to divine defender after 8. And he was receiving max training every week (whole career he played in corner tactics)

So I don't think that you had 26/27yo players popping to divine pace after 8 :)

Maybe not 8 weeks to divine pace , but 8 weeks to divine defender / technique and even less for divine pass or playmaker....
Now, the only talent 8 possible to a divine skill at a player older than 20 is keeper..

I had 7 to divine pace at age 22

Now same player at 24yo (prev season) needed 6 to magical technique
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I had divine DEF with 4+13GT, which is around 6 weeks worth of training at age 21 as well.