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Antinazi resistance was nothing compare to the support for Nazism in Germany.
The term German resistance should not be understood as meaning that there was a united resistance movement in Germany at any time during the Nazi period,[1] analogous to the more coordinated Polish Underground State, Greek Resistance, Yugoslav Partisans, French Resistance, Dutch Resistance, Norwegian resistance movement and Italian Resistance. The German resistance consisted of small and usually isolated groups.
It was a very, very small part of brave and moral Germans.
The term German resistance should not be understood as meaning that there was a united resistance movement in Germany at any time during the Nazi period,[1] analogous to the more coordinated Polish Underground State, Greek Resistance, Yugoslav Partisans, French Resistance, Dutch Resistance, Norwegian resistance movement and Italian Resistance. The German resistance consisted of small and usually isolated groups.
It was a very, very small part of brave and moral Germans.
Does not matter. Repressions are repressions
And nobody denies that communist Poles were swines and opportunists. What's your point?
Tell me how many polish joined the communist party after WWII? Dont say they were forced to, it is BULSHIT!! Many germans were also forced to join NSDAP
Germans weren't forced to join NSDAP. Actually it wasn't easy to join it, it took around 1-2 years and many applications were rejected. In contrary, to join PZPR you only had to sign a paper.
As for numbers, after the WW II it had around 1.5m joined, which has risen in the '80s to 3m because of repressions to those who were not signed in.
And those who joined because they wanted were swines.
Actually I dont know why are we fighting against each other now. We have the same problem in Europe and we have to solve it. You know what am I reffering to.
I'm not fighting, I'm just clarifying that there was no such thing as Polish death camps.
As for the problem, nothing will be solved by writing on forums. Fortunately Poland doesn't have this problem, at least for now.
And nobody denies that communist Poles were swines and opportunists. What's your point?
Tell me how many polish joined the communist party after WWII? Dont say they were forced to, it is BULSHIT!! Many germans were also forced to join NSDAP
Germans weren't forced to join NSDAP. Actually it wasn't easy to join it, it took around 1-2 years and many applications were rejected. In contrary, to join PZPR you only had to sign a paper.
As for numbers, after the WW II it had around 1.5m joined, which has risen in the '80s to 3m because of repressions to those who were not signed in.
And those who joined because they wanted were swines.
Actually I dont know why are we fighting against each other now. We have the same problem in Europe and we have to solve it. You know what am I reffering to.
I'm not fighting, I'm just clarifying that there was no such thing as Polish death camps.
As for the problem, nothing will be solved by writing on forums. Fortunately Poland doesn't have this problem, at least for now.
I'm just clarifying that there was no such thing as Polish death camps
They were over all, in Germany too, dont forget that.
And about joining a totalitarian regime, either it is nazis or communists, 90% of the members dont join it willingly, or at least it only seems like that. Joingn a totalitarian regime is lead by inner unconscious fear and mass manipulation.
They were over all, in Germany too, dont forget that.
And about joining a totalitarian regime, either it is nazis or communists, 90% of the members dont join it willingly, or at least it only seems like that. Joingn a totalitarian regime is lead by inner unconscious fear and mass manipulation.
Fortunately Poland doesn't have this problem, at least for now.
Sure. Make your economy healthy, give the workless citizens 700 € / month and the muslims will invade your country too.
Sure. Make your economy healthy, give the workless citizens 700 € / month and the muslims will invade your country too.
They were over all, in Germany too, dont forget that.
And all of them were created and run by Germans.
I don't really see your point here. What difference does it make that the death camps were also built in Germany?
And about joining a totalitarian regime, either it is nazis or communists, 90% of the members dont join it willingly, or at least it only seems like that. Joingn a totalitarian regime is lead by inner unconscious fear and mass manipulation.
Come on. Germans voted for NSDAP. They chose NSDAP, they chose Hitler. His views were not a secret, Mein Kampf was published in 1925, 14 years before the war.
Sure. Make your economy healthy, give the workless citizens 700 € / month and the muslims will invade your country too.
That's the thing, they don't invade, they are accepted/invited by the West.
And it's their choice to do so. Every country decides its fate.
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And all of them were created and run by Germans.
I don't really see your point here. What difference does it make that the death camps were also built in Germany?
And about joining a totalitarian regime, either it is nazis or communists, 90% of the members dont join it willingly, or at least it only seems like that. Joingn a totalitarian regime is lead by inner unconscious fear and mass manipulation.
Come on. Germans voted for NSDAP. They chose NSDAP, they chose Hitler. His views were not a secret, Mein Kampf was published in 1925, 14 years before the war.
Sure. Make your economy healthy, give the workless citizens 700 € / month and the muslims will invade your country too.
That's the thing, they don't invade, they are accepted/invited by the West.
And it's their choice to do so. Every country decides its fate.
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Every country decides its fate.
Exactly what I mean too. Every nation is responsible for its own history, so dont come with trivial reasons like "russian, german, polish or some congolesian pawns" that influenced a history of a neighbour country.
Russian can say - the jewish bastard is guilty, he brought the revolution in Russia and adpopted some cummunist ideas.
Germans - well, that austrian bastard came to us and made a shit.
Poland and borkos07 - Russian are pigs , their pawns influenced us, we are such an innocent nation :))
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Exactly what I mean too. Every nation is responsible for its own history, so dont come with trivial reasons like "russian, german, polish or some congolesian pawns" that influenced a history of a neighbour country.
Russian can say - the jewish bastard is guilty, he brought the revolution in Russia and adpopted some cummunist ideas.
Germans - well, that austrian bastard came to us and made a shit.
Poland and borkos07 - Russian are pigs , their pawns influenced us, we are such an innocent nation :))
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You have zero knowledge on the topic friend, sorry. Please read what happened with Poland after 2nd World War. We were independent in 1939 and the next time we were independent was 1990.
Just a short excerpt from Wiki:
The Polish People's Republic (Polish: Polska Rzeczpospolita Ludowa, PRL) covers the history of Poland under Communist control between 1952 and 1990. The name was defined by the Constitution of 1952 which was based on the 1936 Soviet Constitution. Between 1947 and 1952, the name of the Polish state was the Republic of Poland (Rzeczpospolita Polska), in accordance with the temporary Constitution of 1947.[1] At the time of its founding during final stages of World War II, Poland was regarded as a puppet entity set up and controlled by the Soviet Union,[2] and over time, it developed into a satellite state of the Soviet Union.
The Soviet Union had much influence over both internal and external affairs, and Red Army forces were stationed in Poland (1945: 500,000; until 1955: 120,000 to 150,000; until 1989: 40,000).[3] In 1945, Soviet generals and advisors formed 80% of the officer cadre of the Polish Armed Forces. The Polish United Workers' Party became the dominant political party, officially making the country a Communist state.
And if you think that Poland 'chose' communism etc. see this part:
In June 1946 the "Three Times Yes" referendum was held on a number of issues—abolition of the Senate of Poland, land reform, and making the Oder–Neisse line Poland's western border. The communist-controlled Interior Ministry issued results showing that all three questions passed overwhelmingly. Years later, however, evidence was uncovered showing that the referendum had been tainted by massive fraud, and only the third question actually passed.
Poland was a puppet state ruled by Soviets.
Read about PPL, read about Solidarność, read about the Yalta conference, then we can talk. Now you simply sound ignorant, sorry.
Russians attacked Poland during World War II and didn't leave it alone until 1990.
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Just a short excerpt from Wiki:
The Polish People's Republic (Polish: Polska Rzeczpospolita Ludowa, PRL) covers the history of Poland under Communist control between 1952 and 1990. The name was defined by the Constitution of 1952 which was based on the 1936 Soviet Constitution. Between 1947 and 1952, the name of the Polish state was the Republic of Poland (Rzeczpospolita Polska), in accordance with the temporary Constitution of 1947.[1] At the time of its founding during final stages of World War II, Poland was regarded as a puppet entity set up and controlled by the Soviet Union,[2] and over time, it developed into a satellite state of the Soviet Union.
The Soviet Union had much influence over both internal and external affairs, and Red Army forces were stationed in Poland (1945: 500,000; until 1955: 120,000 to 150,000; until 1989: 40,000).[3] In 1945, Soviet generals and advisors formed 80% of the officer cadre of the Polish Armed Forces. The Polish United Workers' Party became the dominant political party, officially making the country a Communist state.
And if you think that Poland 'chose' communism etc. see this part:
In June 1946 the "Three Times Yes" referendum was held on a number of issues—abolition of the Senate of Poland, land reform, and making the Oder–Neisse line Poland's western border. The communist-controlled Interior Ministry issued results showing that all three questions passed overwhelmingly. Years later, however, evidence was uncovered showing that the referendum had been tainted by massive fraud, and only the third question actually passed.
Poland was a puppet state ruled by Soviets.
Read about PPL, read about Solidarność, read about the Yalta conference, then we can talk. Now you simply sound ignorant, sorry.
Russians attacked Poland during World War II and didn't leave it alone until 1990.
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So you also think that Auschwitz was a Polish death camp? Nice, very nice.
What exactly is 'enough'? Is it forbidden to talk about history now?
Or maybe it's spam...in spamtopic?
Or maybe it's spam...in spamtopic?
if you want speak history , please find another thing than wikipedia, it is recognize that wikipedia articles can write by anyone and are not checked.
It would take a real historian, but be careful, wikipedia is not necessarily the truth.
It would take a real historian, but be careful, wikipedia is not necessarily the truth.
Show me what part of what I've written is not true, or stop such allegations.
I quote wikipedia because it's the easiest source to find in English (so I don't have to write everything by myself), I know the history from books.
I quote wikipedia because it's the easiest source to find in English (so I don't have to write everything by myself), I know the history from books.
You don't have to teach me a history lesson about what happened in Poland or in another communist countries during the interbelic period, I know it better as many ingnotrant-like of Yety / blackdevil do.
And I am not defending soviets, on the contrary I see red when I see red before my eyes.
The descussion is actually escalated because the above mentioned bastards think like this:
Russians = Communists = Gulags = Bad people
German = Nazi = concentration camps = very bad people.
I would like to ask YOU, Borkos, if you share the same opinion. That is my quetsion.
About being ignorant, tell you what: ignorant were your ancestors that allowed in 1952, my ancestors that allowed din 1944, german ancestors, that allowed in 1933, Russian ancestors that allowed in 1917 to happen what it happened.
Ignorant were the responsible people in Poland , who didn't check thoroughly the president plane, people in France, Belgium, Germany who allowed, directly or inderectly, the terror attacks to happen.
You say so far u have no problem... big LIE.
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And I am not defending soviets, on the contrary I see red when I see red before my eyes.
The descussion is actually escalated because the above mentioned bastards think like this:
Russians = Communists = Gulags = Bad people
German = Nazi = concentration camps = very bad people.
I would like to ask YOU, Borkos, if you share the same opinion. That is my quetsion.
About being ignorant, tell you what: ignorant were your ancestors that allowed in 1952, my ancestors that allowed din 1944, german ancestors, that allowed in 1933, Russian ancestors that allowed in 1917 to happen what it happened.
Ignorant were the responsible people in Poland , who didn't check thoroughly the president plane, people in France, Belgium, Germany who allowed, directly or inderectly, the terror attacks to happen.
You say so far u have no problem... big LIE.
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