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I like Sokker and do see the changes as something good.
I can understand you. I also used to like sokker, I also (usually) see the changes as something good.
But not this kind of changes. Let's just take a look on how these changes influenced sokker.
One month ago, we could rarely see matches lost by the stronger team. Well, they were the salt and pepper of sokker. Now, sokker has much too much salt and pepper. One month ago, we could see situations when a skilled striker, facing a weaker keeper, was missing. Now, with a piece of luck, we may see situations when a skilled striker facing a weaker keeper is scoring. And examples can continue with every modeled event.
That's why I can't see these changes as something good, irrespective which glasses i do wear.
I can understand you. I also used to like sokker, I also (usually) see the changes as something good.
But not this kind of changes. Let's just take a look on how these changes influenced sokker.
One month ago, we could rarely see matches lost by the stronger team. Well, they were the salt and pepper of sokker. Now, sokker has much too much salt and pepper. One month ago, we could see situations when a skilled striker, facing a weaker keeper, was missing. Now, with a piece of luck, we may see situations when a skilled striker facing a weaker keeper is scoring. And examples can continue with every modeled event.
That's why I can't see these changes as something good, irrespective which glasses i do wear.
I absolutely don't care what you think of me! I give my comments to greg about the things that I think need to be changed or added, and I still have my star! You are finally punished for your ridicules behavior.
We lose-it now two active promoters.Who's next?You or I?
I know him very well:he cares about this game more than some others, who don't make anything, dont post a thing on official forums(promo forum).Just look at this 3D promo video, maked by Kobra79 or look at pako-s work til long time for newbies or hungarian sokker(sokkker wiki-hungarian, sokker viewer for Hungary and more other great activity for his community).
I know him very well:he cares about this game more than some others, who don't make anything, dont post a thing on official forums(promo forum).Just look at this 3D promo video, maked by Kobra79 or look at pako-s work til long time for newbies or hungarian sokker(sokkker wiki-hungarian, sokker viewer for Hungary and more other great activity for his community).
im anti-promoter from now, and just dissuaded a person from the game:) i bet i will win this fight:)
Do yo realize that the new ME changes the strategies of training and everything. Do you realize that for some teams took too long to achieve what they had before new changes.
all i can say is...TOUCHE!
Big changes like this should be announced at least 1 season before.....but,again, this is just a problem of communication..like always be in sokker.
all i can say is...TOUCHE!
Big changes like this should be announced at least 1 season before.....but,again, this is just a problem of communication..like always be in sokker.
I absolutely don't care what you think of me! I give my comments to greg about the things that I think need to be changed or added, and I still have my star! You are finally punished for your ridicules behavior.
What do you think of other 20k users?
Be honest, sokker is getting worse and worse and every change lead to worse thing than before...and all concept isnt perspective with these changes without testing and knowing how they work...Its the biggest nonsence to change ME and lot of stuff during the seasson without getting know to other users, without no info!
This sucks
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What do you think of other 20k users?
Be honest, sokker is getting worse and worse and every change lead to worse thing than before...and all concept isnt perspective with these changes without testing and knowing how they work...Its the biggest nonsence to change ME and lot of stuff during the seasson without getting know to other users, without no info!
This sucks
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it has a lot of:
This is thanks for hard work.
Greg needs someone who has the same opinion as him. Finally, Sokker will play Charles and Greg Hill.
This is thanks for hard work.
Greg needs someone who has the same opinion as him. Finally, Sokker will play Charles and Greg Hill.
sad that you agreed with me, sorry from me:(
you should get back your star.
you should get back your star.
You still really don't get it why this happened? I warned you many times your behaviour isn't normal and anti-promo. And now you behaved like this to greg and see what happened ...
Don't blame this on others, you did this all yourself!
Don't blame this on others, you did this all yourself!
dont you think its up to every user how they will behave? and anti-sokker behaviour doesn't mean bad behaviour, its opinion and everyone has to have right on it!!! and this is where everythink starts here!!!
so take care about yourself and don't take other users as they have same opinion, they don't...
so take care about yourself and don't take other users as they have same opinion, they don't...
If you can not tell you what I think, then we do not need star promoter.
I did not write here, but the forum to a linguist is a big difference.
You have proof that this is a big crap what you do, but you continue on.
I know that I have brought many people to Sokker, that's important, and now only speak on their behalf.
I wanted to help and wrote its opinion, no one has responded. This is your organization, zero!
I reacted angrily when he wrote that Greg is fine 42 shot, and not single goal, opponent two shots and two goals.
Greg can not be mocking with us!
I did not write here, but the forum to a linguist is a big difference.
You have proof that this is a big crap what you do, but you continue on.
I know that I have brought many people to Sokker, that's important, and now only speak on their behalf.
I wanted to help and wrote its opinion, no one has responded. This is your organization, zero!
I reacted angrily when he wrote that Greg is fine 42 shot, and not single goal, opponent two shots and two goals.
Greg can not be mocking with us!
Big changes like this should be announced at least 1 season before.....but,again, this is just a problem of communication..like always be in sokker.
I also think some news should have been posted about changes of the ME sooner as it did now. But to be honest, what good would this have done to prepair for these changes? We still wouldn't have known what the changes would mean for us till the first matches were played with the new implemented ME.
Changes just always mean a group of people start to complain as they don't like it, while other love it that finally things have changed so Sokker can grow again. For example in the Netherlands we didn't had this many new manager sign ups for many months.
Date - week - number of new managers
2012-03-05 - 10 - 8
2012-03-13 - 11 - 10
2012-03-21 - 12 - 7
2012-03-27 - 13 - 8
2012-04-02 - 14 - 15
2012-04-09 - 15 - 9
2012-04-18 - 16 - 9
2012-04-23 - 17 - 12
2012-04-30 - 18 - 12
2012-05-07 - 19 - 8
2012-05-14 - 20 - 13
2012-05-21 - 21 - 12
2012-05-30 - 22 - 14
2012-06-04 - 23 - 19
2012-06-11 - 24 - 25
2012-06-18 - 25 - 34
2012-06-25 - 26 - 23
2012-07-02 - 27 - 1
I also think some news should have been posted about changes of the ME sooner as it did now. But to be honest, what good would this have done to prepair for these changes? We still wouldn't have known what the changes would mean for us till the first matches were played with the new implemented ME.
Changes just always mean a group of people start to complain as they don't like it, while other love it that finally things have changed so Sokker can grow again. For example in the Netherlands we didn't had this many new manager sign ups for many months.
Date - week - number of new managers
2012-03-05 - 10 - 8
2012-03-13 - 11 - 10
2012-03-21 - 12 - 7
2012-03-27 - 13 - 8
2012-04-02 - 14 - 15
2012-04-09 - 15 - 9
2012-04-18 - 16 - 9
2012-04-23 - 17 - 12
2012-04-30 - 18 - 12
2012-05-07 - 19 - 8
2012-05-14 - 20 - 13
2012-05-21 - 21 - 12
2012-05-30 - 22 - 14
2012-06-04 - 23 - 19
2012-06-11 - 24 - 25
2012-06-18 - 25 - 34
2012-06-25 - 26 - 23
2012-07-02 - 27 - 1
Just wait and see few weeks to see how many users will stay in SK...
dont you think its up to every user how they will behave? and anti-sokker behaviour doesn't mean bad behaviour, its opinion and everyone has to have right on it!!! and this is where everythink starts here!!!
As a staff member some kind of behaviour can be expected as they represent Sokker, that star gives some responsibility towards other managers but also the DEVs. And ofcourse this doesn't mean staff members have to agree with the DEVs, absolutely not, everyone can always have their own opinion and that's also needed as other/new ideas and feedback (given in a normal words) mean more input for the DEVs. I often have discussions with greg about things that should be different, on many things he and I disagree, and I can tell him this without loosing my star.
And how many times have I asked everyone in this topic to please post bugs and problems in the topic [BUG] ME Errors of the Forum Bugs / Ideas (en)? So again: post match link + minutes the bug(s)/problem(s) happened in this topic so it can be used. I never told anyone to agree with me. I only ask for useful info so it can be showed to the DEVs. Manager l-zsolt already showed greg the summary of the first post of this topic. That's the only thing to get things to be changed, only complaining won't help, we need prove of the problems.
As a staff member some kind of behaviour can be expected as they represent Sokker, that star gives some responsibility towards other managers but also the DEVs. And ofcourse this doesn't mean staff members have to agree with the DEVs, absolutely not, everyone can always have their own opinion and that's also needed as other/new ideas and feedback (given in a normal words) mean more input for the DEVs. I often have discussions with greg about things that should be different, on many things he and I disagree, and I can tell him this without loosing my star.
And how many times have I asked everyone in this topic to please post bugs and problems in the topic [BUG] ME Errors of the Forum Bugs / Ideas (en)? So again: post match link + minutes the bug(s)/problem(s) happened in this topic so it can be used. I never told anyone to agree with me. I only ask for useful info so it can be showed to the DEVs. Manager l-zsolt already showed greg the summary of the first post of this topic. That's the only thing to get things to be changed, only complaining won't help, we need prove of the problems.