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Subject: »U20 - Users who broke agreement
Finally on CHAPTER 5, they met, they laughed and at the end Polska won again the U21-WC... Goodnight!
100% correct! hehehehehe... >:p
100% correct! hehehehehe... >:p
Poland u21 are they even a good team???????????????????
Can there be a rule also that in those cases you may not call names. Just facts and information about what actually happened, not what people think that happened, and no accusations.
One more and very last comment from myself to this situation. I have absolutely no chance to prove if I lied or not. Whatever I say will not change situation, you can just believe me or not.
Fact is I didnt check players age at all during match preparation and as I already mentioned, just forgot you wanted to play U20.
So mistake can be only when you forget to setup match at all? There is no other way to make mistake, really?
Nobody defend what happened afaik, some of people who knows me many years just didnt agree with your statement about me to be liar. I take myself as very honest person, I dont have problem to admit my faults (ok sometimes I have), but really I dont consider myself as liar or cheater as you called me. I play sokker more than 10 years, I was forum moderator and admin as well. Does it sound like person who needs to lie or cheat?
But its really up to you, as I told I cannot convience you I didnt do it to win, actually I really didnt care so much about this match result as its only friendly, just wanted to test some players to motivate users for training a check some talents. I think I could call you many names as you insulted me, but I will never do it, maybe you are nice guy in real life I dont know. If you do me the same, I would first ask you in sk-mail what happened, and we would explain "face to face¨. Maybe I would just think something and let it be.
So this is it, you all know what happened, you all know my explanation and you can accept it or not. This topic is really sad for me, I dont understand opinion of some guys and I wish them to never forget anything and do any mistake in their lives.
If you want to talk to me, please do it in sk-mail... you can publish it afterwards if you want but I will not keep this flame chat on. I feel I said enough and I would only repeat the same again and again
Fact is I didnt check players age at all during match preparation and as I already mentioned, just forgot you wanted to play U20.
So mistake can be only when you forget to setup match at all? There is no other way to make mistake, really?
Nobody defend what happened afaik, some of people who knows me many years just didnt agree with your statement about me to be liar. I take myself as very honest person, I dont have problem to admit my faults (ok sometimes I have), but really I dont consider myself as liar or cheater as you called me. I play sokker more than 10 years, I was forum moderator and admin as well. Does it sound like person who needs to lie or cheat?
But its really up to you, as I told I cannot convience you I didnt do it to win, actually I really didnt care so much about this match result as its only friendly, just wanted to test some players to motivate users for training a check some talents. I think I could call you many names as you insulted me, but I will never do it, maybe you are nice guy in real life I dont know. If you do me the same, I would first ask you in sk-mail what happened, and we would explain "face to face¨. Maybe I would just think something and let it be.
So this is it, you all know what happened, you all know my explanation and you can accept it or not. This topic is really sad for me, I dont understand opinion of some guys and I wish them to never forget anything and do any mistake in their lives.
If you want to talk to me, please do it in sk-mail... you can publish it afterwards if you want but I will not keep this flame chat on. I feel I said enough and I would only repeat the same again and again
Just like tsolias said, perhaps this thing will solves if either mikefull or artista offering another friendly game, U21 (6 of them) Montenegro v U20 Sweden.
So, propose a friendly game will ya! Please.
So, propose a friendly game will ya! Please.
my opinion:
Coach u21 or NT has 1 week to prepare players for the games, so there is no excuse to "cheat" as the age of the players.
Was a match of week 7, confuse player age or say we do not know the age of the players is to want to justify what can not be justified.
Coach u21 or NT has 1 week to prepare players for the games, so there is no excuse to "cheat" as the age of the players.
Was a match of week 7, confuse player age or say we do not know the age of the players is to want to justify what can not be justified.
Although I am not at fault for what has happened in the match between Montenegro and Sweden, I am willing to "give" back ranking points to Montenegro. I propose a match between Czech U20 team and B-team of Montenegro. By B-team, I mean players with same experience as mikefull used (i.e. players who do not play regularly in NT and have just few NT matches in their history).
Furthermore, I do not insist that Montenegro will play as weak lineup as mikefull used (just to remind you, mikefull used U21 players only on 4 positions and the rest was U20 - and all of the U21 players were from his B-team). I am okay with Montenegro playing just U21 players, as long as they are not playing regularly for the NT.
I guess that this offer is extremely generous from my side - since choosing the B-team players will be much easier for Montenegro, compared to Sweden. Furthermore, both Czech Republic and Montenegro are Pot 1 team, so the match would have been close even without giving an advantage to Montenegro. Which is not the case if we compare rank 12 Montenegro to rank 57 Sweden.
I would like, however, to hear finally a publicly written excuse from Artista for the insults he published in this topic. I do not want to help someone who calls me a cheater or liar. So - it's just up to him.
Furthermore, I do not insist that Montenegro will play as weak lineup as mikefull used (just to remind you, mikefull used U21 players only on 4 positions and the rest was U20 - and all of the U21 players were from his B-team). I am okay with Montenegro playing just U21 players, as long as they are not playing regularly for the NT.
I guess that this offer is extremely generous from my side - since choosing the B-team players will be much easier for Montenegro, compared to Sweden. Furthermore, both Czech Republic and Montenegro are Pot 1 team, so the match would have been close even without giving an advantage to Montenegro. Which is not the case if we compare rank 12 Montenegro to rank 57 Sweden.
I would like, however, to hear finally a publicly written excuse from Artista for the insults he published in this topic. I do not want to help someone who calls me a cheater or liar. So - it's just up to him.
See I need to reply you...:(((((
For You is normal that i play U20 vs U21 game, as you even now try to cover the mikeffull "mistake" with your cheap irony.
Im glad that You see Crna Gora and Czech Republic on same level but I would not feel comfortable on your place, as Czech Republic have 430 users and we 28. (When you try to compare systems you should try to take all data in consideration)
See You feel big self-confidence in your writing, so maybe you should challenge yourself taking a U21 NT with 28 users and try to play a game for a medal. If that is unrealistic for you i will congratulate you even if you manage to qualify for WC.
Despite your generosity I cant accept to play vs You (with all respect for Czech community), as have to prepare Crna Gora for much important games.
P.S. Wish You a lot of games vs opponents as Sverige u21.
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For You is normal that i play U20 vs U21 game, as you even now try to cover the mikeffull "mistake" with your cheap irony.
Im glad that You see Crna Gora and Czech Republic on same level but I would not feel comfortable on your place, as Czech Republic have 430 users and we 28. (When you try to compare systems you should try to take all data in consideration)
See You feel big self-confidence in your writing, so maybe you should challenge yourself taking a U21 NT with 28 users and try to play a game for a medal. If that is unrealistic for you i will congratulate you even if you manage to qualify for WC.
Despite your generosity I cant accept to play vs You (with all respect for Czech community), as have to prepare Crna Gora for much important games.
P.S. Wish You a lot of games vs opponents as Sverige u21.
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