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I am a former Sokker DEV, and not just any DEV, but one of those who was involved in creating the game. Back then we made the game mainly for the fun of people who were starting to get serious about programming. It’s nostalgic to remember things moving. We never imagined the game would grow so much! What pride!
One thing I disagreed with at the time was the implementation of an option that allowed us to determine the result of a match before the match took place. The intention was not to harm anyone. I assume whoever had that idea meant well. The problem is that the Game Engine had many problems in its implementation, and sometimes produced totally absurd results. So to protect the better teams, that mechanism was sometimes activated manually when there were too many absurd results against a much stronger team. That way we could keep some coherence in the rankings. That was only implemented to keep the game fair, that was the goal.
But then favors to friends started, and some people, for personal reasons, would take revenge on someone “by pushing the button.” And it was because of that that others and I stepped away.
Meanwhile I got nostalgic and registered in the game to see how things were. I went into my country’s forum and I see this:
forum_topic/ID_forum/60/ID_topic/60567/pg/0#new
xd wiadomo kto ma wciśnięty guziczek w PP……. :>
xd we know who pressed the button in the Polish Cup… :>
It’s sad to see that the template changed, but nothing else did.
I see that borkos007 got what he wanted! No one ever tampered with the result of elections, because there was a risk that people would talk to each other and the votes wouldn’t match. Elections have always been honest. But there have always been national teams harmed so that the coach would leave or lose the elections, and someone else would win. Poland has been very harmed in the past, but now borkos007 is there, so Poland is no longer harmed. In fact, I suppose it’s the opposite now.
Then I went to the international forum and I see several complaints from a releme. Look, I can’t guarantee your team is being harmed because I haven’t followed your path in recent seasons. But if someone requested your national team, it is perfectly possible they are making you lose games so you leave, and they can put someone they want there. Similar to real-life Belarus. They’ve done that many times; I just don’t know if they’re doing it to you, because I haven’t followed the recent past. If that’s the case, I apologize. And I suggest you don’t rage on the forums, because you risk that even after you leave they’ll continue to harm you out of revenge.
They have always had some moderators to prevent too many people from talking about what happens here, if they gathered data and discovered things. It’s a shame to see people like Dtox9 doing that work. I know Dtox9 well. He has no self-respect. He does not put his dignity first. Unfortunately there are people like that. I feel very sorry for him. I left because I was not for sale, and I feel sorry for those who are.
I found this exchange shameful:
adaca to Dtox9
Should you talk about the game like that with a M star
Dtox9 to adaca
Should you reply with no informational nature when you're on the radar with the mod crew?
Don't push it.
So Moderator Dtox9 is an arsonist, and anyone who criticizes him is threatened? Dtox9 can say crap and everything’s fine, and anyone who reprimands him is threatened? That is an abuse of power by a dishonest piece of trash. I’m with you Adaca! Don’t be afraid! Consider me your friend!
I wanted everyone to be able to have fun together. Unfortunately the power of the little button went to people’s heads and the game did not become what I dreamed. I apologize to everyone. I came back to satisfy my nostalgia and I only became sadder. I regret having logged in. I logged in but given the state of things, this is a new goodbye. If any moderator is outraged for having me expose a bit of Sokker’s history, no problem. I can create new Sokker accounts every five minutes to tell a bit more of Sokker’s story. It’s a matter of whether it still makes sense to keep telling it or not. The power of the little button doesn’t affect me, nor do those pathetic bans. I only ask that everyone behave well and show respect for one another.
I am a former Sokker DEV, and not just any DEV, but one of those who was involved in creating the game. Back then we made the game mainly for the fun of people who were starting to get serious about programming. It’s nostalgic to remember things moving. We never imagined the game would grow so much! What pride!
One thing I disagreed with at the time was the implementation of an option that allowed us to determine the result of a match before the match took place. The intention was not to harm anyone. I assume whoever had that idea meant well. The problem is that the Game Engine had many problems in its implementation, and sometimes produced totally absurd results. So to protect the better teams, that mechanism was sometimes activated manually when there were too many absurd results against a much stronger team. That way we could keep some coherence in the rankings. That was only implemented to keep the game fair, that was the goal.
But then favors to friends started, and some people, for personal reasons, would take revenge on someone “by pushing the button.” And it was because of that that others and I stepped away.
Meanwhile I got nostalgic and registered in the game to see how things were. I went into my country’s forum and I see this:
forum_topic/ID_forum/60/ID_topic/60567/pg/0#new
xd wiadomo kto ma wciśnięty guziczek w PP……. :>
xd we know who pressed the button in the Polish Cup… :>
It’s sad to see that the template changed, but nothing else did.
I see that borkos007 got what he wanted! No one ever tampered with the result of elections, because there was a risk that people would talk to each other and the votes wouldn’t match. Elections have always been honest. But there have always been national teams harmed so that the coach would leave or lose the elections, and someone else would win. Poland has been very harmed in the past, but now borkos007 is there, so Poland is no longer harmed. In fact, I suppose it’s the opposite now.
Then I went to the international forum and I see several complaints from a releme. Look, I can’t guarantee your team is being harmed because I haven’t followed your path in recent seasons. But if someone requested your national team, it is perfectly possible they are making you lose games so you leave, and they can put someone they want there. Similar to real-life Belarus. They’ve done that many times; I just don’t know if they’re doing it to you, because I haven’t followed the recent past. If that’s the case, I apologize. And I suggest you don’t rage on the forums, because you risk that even after you leave they’ll continue to harm you out of revenge.
They have always had some moderators to prevent too many people from talking about what happens here, if they gathered data and discovered things. It’s a shame to see people like Dtox9 doing that work. I know Dtox9 well. He has no self-respect. He does not put his dignity first. Unfortunately there are people like that. I feel very sorry for him. I left because I was not for sale, and I feel sorry for those who are.
I found this exchange shameful:
adaca to Dtox9
Should you talk about the game like that with a M star
Dtox9 to adaca
Should you reply with no informational nature when you're on the radar with the mod crew?
Don't push it.
So Moderator Dtox9 is an arsonist, and anyone who criticizes him is threatened? Dtox9 can say crap and everything’s fine, and anyone who reprimands him is threatened? That is an abuse of power by a dishonest piece of trash. I’m with you Adaca! Don’t be afraid! Consider me your friend!
I wanted everyone to be able to have fun together. Unfortunately the power of the little button went to people’s heads and the game did not become what I dreamed. I apologize to everyone. I came back to satisfy my nostalgia and I only became sadder. I regret having logged in. I logged in but given the state of things, this is a new goodbye. If any moderator is outraged for having me expose a bit of Sokker’s history, no problem. I can create new Sokker accounts every five minutes to tell a bit more of Sokker’s story. It’s a matter of whether it still makes sense to keep telling it or not. The power of the little button doesn’t affect me, nor do those pathetic bans. I only ask that everyone behave well and show respect for one another.
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At least change the language to Polish if you wanna troll properly
Btw nice job with the USA elections trolling of releme, that one was good. This one is meh, but he will obviously believe it since he believed every story you told him xD
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Język: English
At least change the language to Polish if you wanna troll properly
Btw nice job with the USA elections trolling of releme, that one was good. This one is meh, but he will obviously believe it since he believed every story you told him xD
Your reports are very interesting. I am very excited to see how things develop.
Thank you for your courage in speaking out on this topic, even though there are certainly some who will not approve :)
Thank you for your courage in speaking out on this topic, even though there are certainly some who will not approve :)
There were only 2 developers of this game, greg and Damian, both are still majority owners & involved in game.
The fact that you bought it - an „ex dev” nobody ever heard about suddenly appearing after 10+ years just to write on forum where releme is active about the conspiracy theories that releme believes to be true etc. - isn't really shocking though.
Releme has been trolled by this guy for years, as he said he is able to create multiple accounts with ease, that's how he made releme win the USA NT elections, he also made releme believe that there is a „south american bookmaker where you can make bets on sokker games and sokker admins make money betting there” and so on. Please don't be so naive and gullible to the point where like releme you believe every crazy story someone tells you.
Also:
"Meanwhile I got nostalgic and registered in the game to see how things were. I went into my country’s forum and I see this:
forum_topic/ID_forum/60/ID_topic/60567/pg/0#new
xd wiadomo kto ma wciśnięty guziczek w PP……. :>
xd we know who pressed the button in the Polish Cup… :>"
this part he took from relemes post in Portuguese forum which confirms he's the same Portuguese troll who makes releme look like a crazy person
it was just a joke on Polish forum, not written and not taken seriously by anyone
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The fact that you bought it - an „ex dev” nobody ever heard about suddenly appearing after 10+ years just to write on forum where releme is active about the conspiracy theories that releme believes to be true etc. - isn't really shocking though.
Releme has been trolled by this guy for years, as he said he is able to create multiple accounts with ease, that's how he made releme win the USA NT elections, he also made releme believe that there is a „south american bookmaker where you can make bets on sokker games and sokker admins make money betting there” and so on. Please don't be so naive and gullible to the point where like releme you believe every crazy story someone tells you.
Also:
"Meanwhile I got nostalgic and registered in the game to see how things were. I went into my country’s forum and I see this:
forum_topic/ID_forum/60/ID_topic/60567/pg/0#new
xd wiadomo kto ma wciśnięty guziczek w PP……. :>
xd we know who pressed the button in the Polish Cup… :>"
this part he took from relemes post in Portuguese forum which confirms he's the same Portuguese troll who makes releme look like a crazy person
it was just a joke on Polish forum, not written and not taken seriously by anyone
(edited)
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