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???? I dont see Palestine state and declaration war against attacker.
Now I can see just strong Israel amry attacking rebels hiding among civils which are dying too.
Now I can see just strong Israel amry attacking rebels hiding among civils which are dying too.
Give them state, then after first attacks ask Palestine for huge ?reparations?/money for casualities and also ask UNO for help in war against attacker. With next attack you can defend and declare war, UNO will not be against, at least me not!.
Problem is if you can give them that state/borders which was made by UNO, so not just that land you want give them.
After legal war you can takeover whole country and give enemies to jail or so.
Problem is if you can give them that state/borders which was made by UNO, so not just that land you want give them.
After legal war you can takeover whole country and give enemies to jail or so.
this can be really solution.... for ever :-).
And that wall should be 1 km high :-DD
And that wall should be 1 km high :-DD
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[i]the only chance is not to fall again and again in the lie of "selfdefense", you are not selfdefending yourselves, you're condeming your kids to live like you do now. In war and fear. [/]
This is half true, but the first half is not.
In the middle east you cannot afford to just stand still hands free and wait to see if your neighbours are in good mood today. Israel does not bomb as a regular practice with no reason or known target, and not on sporadic innocent civilians.
It is indeed an unfortunate situation that we have to maintain a huge security budget.
Today is exactly 20 years since Israel signed a peace contract with Arafat, and started a process of peace, retreated from palestinian cities and gave weapons and armours to the Arafat police.
No one knows better than us how dear is peace in our place.
In year 2000 Arafat refused to accept Israel's offer for a final peace, splitting Jerusalem again and some more concessions and did not even agree to waive the palestinian notion that Israel does not have the right to exist. Instead he started the second "Intifada" that brought even deeper gap between the sides.
I am sure I can blame Israel leaders for mistakes and bad decisions in this debate, and most of them are not even on my political side. However in order to proceed to peace, both sides have to find partner for peace at the other side. This is hard to do when the arab leaders compete in public, about who hates Israel more.
[i]the only chance is not to fall again and again in the lie of "selfdefense", you are not selfdefending yourselves, you're condeming your kids to live like you do now. In war and fear. [/]
This is half true, but the first half is not.
In the middle east you cannot afford to just stand still hands free and wait to see if your neighbours are in good mood today. Israel does not bomb as a regular practice with no reason or known target, and not on sporadic innocent civilians.
It is indeed an unfortunate situation that we have to maintain a huge security budget.
Today is exactly 20 years since Israel signed a peace contract with Arafat, and started a process of peace, retreated from palestinian cities and gave weapons and armours to the Arafat police.
No one knows better than us how dear is peace in our place.
In year 2000 Arafat refused to accept Israel's offer for a final peace, splitting Jerusalem again and some more concessions and did not even agree to waive the palestinian notion that Israel does not have the right to exist. Instead he started the second "Intifada" that brought even deeper gap between the sides.
I am sure I can blame Israel leaders for mistakes and bad decisions in this debate, and most of them are not even on my political side. However in order to proceed to peace, both sides have to find partner for peace at the other side. This is hard to do when the arab leaders compete in public, about who hates Israel more.
Charles Hill, except from the Korean arrangment, what are other logical or geographical ideas behind your suggestion?
Do you want to take palestinans out of their place? I know you don't care about Israelies.
You're talking about 2 million arabs that will have to move. Where would all Gaza Strip people will have to migrate to?
I take it as a cynical comment. You're not stupid.
Do you want to take palestinans out of their place? I know you don't care about Israelies.
You're talking about 2 million arabs that will have to move. Where would all Gaza Strip people will have to migrate to?
I take it as a cynical comment. You're not stupid.
Rumpil???? I dont see Palestine state and declaration war against attacker.
Now I can see just strong Israel amry attacking rebels hiding among civils which are dying too.
20 years ago (exactly today) palestinians sugned an agreement with Israel for gradual steps for peace.
As a first step, they were given BY ISREAL weapons for their security forces, and were declared as the Palestinian Authority. In 2000 they started a small war against Israel using these weapons to attack Israeli soldiers. Israel is stronger, and there is no reaon to appologize, so this "Intifada" was on low volume,. Palestinians started to send suicde bombers to civilian cities (they were allowed to enter!) and therefore Israel decided to build that wall.
Again - we can walk calmly in streets and sit in restaurants wiithout fear of terror. Therefore there is no reason to appologize.
Now I can see just strong Israel amry attacking rebels hiding among civils which are dying too.
20 years ago (exactly today) palestinians sugned an agreement with Israel for gradual steps for peace.
As a first step, they were given BY ISREAL weapons for their security forces, and were declared as the Palestinian Authority. In 2000 they started a small war against Israel using these weapons to attack Israeli soldiers. Israel is stronger, and there is no reaon to appologize, so this "Intifada" was on low volume,. Palestinians started to send suicde bombers to civilian cities (they were allowed to enter!) and therefore Israel decided to build that wall.
Again - we can walk calmly in streets and sit in restaurants wiithout fear of terror. Therefore there is no reason to appologize.
Yes. He refused to have a settlement that establishes Israel as a Jewish country.
The palestinian council declared on the '60s or '70 that Israel must not exist, and he just refused to cancel it, or to accept Israel as a legal state. Of course he also negitiated about territories, but this was only on the surface.
The palestinian council declared on the '60s or '70 that Israel must not exist, and he just refused to cancel it, or to accept Israel as a legal state. Of course he also negitiated about territories, but this was only on the surface.
look.... I am reading what you write here.... but:
1. When I am trying to get more info from people who are older or just know more about it as me I can get same reasonable answers against yours... so hard to choose one the best opinion
2. if they are totally against israel as a legal state, what to say... they are tireless and also after decades of warring they didnt change their mind... what to say... they dont like your state which was created there ... so peace is not solution... kill them all or go out... sad solution but the only one which can solve it.
I told you more times.... problem started long time ago, when you came to that area and nobody will solve it..... I just dont like see daily killing for decades in that area. why I had to see it every week in news ?? Not my fault.
1. When I am trying to get more info from people who are older or just know more about it as me I can get same reasonable answers against yours... so hard to choose one the best opinion
2. if they are totally against israel as a legal state, what to say... they are tireless and also after decades of warring they didnt change their mind... what to say... they dont like your state which was created there ... so peace is not solution... kill them all or go out... sad solution but the only one which can solve it.
I told you more times.... problem started long time ago, when you came to that area and nobody will solve it..... I just dont like see daily killing for decades in that area. why I had to see it every week in news ?? Not my fault.
So Israel should either get out or kill all palestenians so there are none left according to you ? Ohh to irony...
Dollar no longer primary oil currency as China begins to sell oil using Yuan
Iraq war was done to prevent Ghaeddafi to sell oil for euro.
Now the USA's debt's owners take control of it.
That's the end of an era!
Iraq war was done to prevent Ghaeddafi to sell oil for euro.
Now the USA's debt's owners take control of it.
That's the end of an era!