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Subject: Pope

2013-02-12 11:58:41
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in the extreme persecution of the Holy Roman Church, there will sit.

This part made me almost believe this prophecy hoax ;)

you Catholics are such intolerant to people with any another opinion

Yes, we are. Fortunately, we are also much less intolerant than non-Catholics are and we are even willing to admit it and apologize. ;)
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Fortunately, we are also much less intolerant than non-Catholics

You do realize the irony in this sentence, do you?
No, but, knowing your logic, neither do you. :)
Saying people who are different from you are more intolerant is intolerance, that is the irony.

(I never said Catholics are intolerant. I say the Catholic Church (as an institute) is intolerant.)
Many Pope ups in this subject... :-)
I told you so. That's not intolerance. Intolerance is when you don't allow that someone is different. I am fine with their intolerance. They can't do any better without highly valuing admittance, apology and forgiveness.

Noticing that you're better than the others and/or saying it publicly is called pride or vanity.
Noticing that you're better than the others and/or saying it publicly is called pride or vanity.

On the individual basis, yes. But not when you say one group is definitely better than another group while the factor that splits the people up in the group and 'the others' is totally irrelevant to being a good human or a tolerant human. Factors that are totally irrelevant are religious choice, sexual preference, skin color, ...

You especially are in no position to claim that you are more tolerant than others.
2013-02-12 13:40:55
That prophecy is kinda cool.. perhaps Dan Brown should write a novel about it :D
Always basic logic and semantic discussions with you. When do you plan to upgrade a level? :)

I was making a generalization as reply to another one. Have you ever seen or heard a generalization? Generalization doesn't mean that one group is definitely better than another nor that I, as a part of this group, am per se better or worse than anyone in another group.

You especially are in no position to claim that you are more tolerant than others.

And why would that be? :)
You think that tolerance is about accepting as equal values that are different than your own. That would mean that a person who doesn't care about own values is the most tolerant one and that's certainly not the case.
Tolerance is the ability to reconcile your own values with different ones and, in many examples, that is unfortunately simply an impossible task. Unless of course you give up on your values which leads us to the mentioned "anything goes" person.
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2013-02-12 13:54:12
That prophecy is kinda cool.. perhaps Dan Brown should write a novel about it :D

It is kinda cool. It uses in psychology the well known Forer effect. ;)
2013-02-12 14:37:41
I hope that the next one

Hope not ;P
Does any catholic know how will be called benedict XVI ? Archbishop ? other ?
What about Führer?
2013-02-12 15:14:25
dk,never liked him tho
2013-02-12 15:23:41
Cardinal Ratzinger.