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Subject: Robbed in the junior game

2025-07-10 14:44:46
By default, I mean one of the tactics that already exist in Sokker. But yes, in a strict sense of the word, what you're saying is more precise.

That game you put in your answer is perfect.

That season, I used a tactic called “Corners” in all the difficult games. I distinctly remember deleting that tactic (and then doing another one called Corners). In this game I forgot to put in the new Corners, and played that game without the tactic.

What happened? I played on 343, but I didn't put 343 there and save. If I'd gone into the Settings after deleting the Corners, I would have seen and put in the new Corners. I simply never went back into the Settings after saving the Settings for that game... and the team played on that 343. But I never saved that 343 to play that game!

In the junior championship, what was supposed to happen was to play in 343, not lose 5-0 without playing.

Here's an example of a game in which I had no tactics, but the team played anyway. Thank you.
2025-07-10 14:56:58
That season, I used a tactic called “Corners” in all the difficult games. I distinctly remember deleting that tactic (and then doing another one called Corners). In this game I forgot to put in the new Corners, and played that game without the tactic.

No, you played that game with 343 tactic after you went to the match settings and saved it with that 343 tactic. This is what happened. You would lose that game with walkover if you didn't do it, just like you lost your youth match this week.
2025-07-10 15:22:13
No, you played that game with 343 tactic after you went to the match settings and saved it with that 343 tactic. This is what happened. You would lose that game with walkover if you didn't do it, just like you lost your youth match this week.

The only one who knows what I did or didn't do is me.

I've never saved a game with this 343, nor would I ever save it. I intended to play with the Corners tactic, saved with this tactic, then deleted the Corners tactic, and my team automatically played 343. My team had no tactic and played 343.

I'm 100% sure of this.
2025-07-10 15:40:51
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2025-07-10 15:50:24
You are 100% sure what you did a year ago? That for example you didn't go to match settings to change squad after selling Nośka and that's when 343 was set without you realising?

Funny to read that you are 100% sure about something, when you said multiple times in this thread about it happening "few times", "EVERY time" when it was only ONCE. You are not a reliable source of information. Just like you aren't with your crazy conspiracy theories, like the legendary bookmaker claims

I know what happened because I know how these things work. You have no tactic set for a match = you always lose with walkover, it's that simple.
2025-07-10 16:23:26
It was 1 year ago, but it happened to me.

It was a year ago, it happened to me, and you want to be more sure than I am.

I don't know what I ate yesterday, but I might remember if I'd slapped someone 10 years ago. These things happen. It depends on how important things are.

Funny to read that you are 100% sure about something, when you said multiple times in this thread about it happening "few times", "EVERY time" when it was only ONCE.

You put ONE game here, and I talked about that game. That's all.

I'm 100% sure I had set the "Corners" tactic in this game, deleted the tactic, and my team automatically played 343. Just like you said, I only used 343 in this game. Why would I have saved this game with 343? I simply deleted the tactic and forgot to set the correct tactic.
2025-07-10 16:40:54
I understand Mikoos that way:

you delete preset tactic, no tactic is available, you loose voa walkover

But if you go back to settings before the game started and change anything, save it, then you have 343 set as tactic selected automatically. You do not need to select any tactic, but you need to go into match settings and save again.

@mikoos: please correct me, if understood you wrong.
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2025-07-10 16:44:29
koka to koka
And he explained that you may have done it earlier (just exchnaged a player in match settings and saved), but did not do that in the recent case.
2025-07-10 17:33:40
You understand me correctly, and I'm sure releme also understands me, he just won't admit to something that won't fit his stupid theory.

To make releme not feel so special, here are some examples of (null) walkovers from previous season (there were 139 total last season):
https://sokker.org/comment?matchID=42375829
https://sokker.org/comment?matchID=42395997
https://sokker.org/comment?matchID=42410129
https://sokker.org/comment?matchID=42464907
https://sokker.org/comment?matchID=42633059
https://sokker.org/comment?matchID=42644338
https://sokker.org/comment?matchID=42648595
https://sokker.org/comment?matchID=42648907

EOT from me, enough time wasted for a troll :P
2025-07-10 17:44:06
I decide the teams on Saturdays, so for the game:
https://sokker.org/comment?matchID=41433510
The team was selected on August 10, 2024.

On August 14, 2024, the game took place. In that game, I used a team of 10 young players, and the objective was to use the Corners tactic.

I used the exact same team as the August 4th game:
https://sokker.org/comment?matchID=41433546

As you can see, the players are exactly the same, position by position, except for player number 14, who appears in the August 4th game, but there is no player number 14 in the August 14th game.

This happened because player number 14, Renat Gotko, was sold on August 12th (after August 10th and before August 14th), but I didn't do the work to enter the team to replace him. I simply didn't change anything in the team after August 10th! On August 10th, I copied the team used on August 4th and didn't go back into the game settings, not even to change the player I sold.

Sometime between August 10th and August 14th I deleted the "Corners" tactic and the team automatically played at 343. But I didn't save the configuration to use that 343! That was automatic!
2025-07-10 17:50:09
You have access to a lot of information very quickly and efficiently. You had access to the tactics code, and you claim there were 139 such matches last season (and I'm sure you weren't watching all the matches 1 by 1). And you're not a DEV at Sokker. A quick question: are you Sokker's hacker?
2025-07-10 17:53:45
lol, you are unbelievable...
2025-07-10 17:56:11
there is another explanation for his omniscience: He is God!

Now go pray for better results...
2025-07-10 18:00:20
We both know that a normal user doesn't have access to all this information so quickly. I think it's a legitimate question. It's one thing for him to be a software developer and know how to code, but quite another for him to have access to all this. How far does his access extend?
2025-07-10 18:07:38
I think that IS a different scenario from the one Mikoos said

If you deleted the tactic before doing the lineup and chose a previous Game configuration with that non-existing tactic, probably the 343 tactic was selected instead in that moment
2025-07-10 18:15:15
Are you really a software dev? Because now I doubt it.

You had access to the tactics code
If you were a real software dev you would recognise that "code" as a json that could be returned from api request
https://sokker.org/api/tactic

and you claim there were 139 such matches last season (and I'm sure you weren't watching all the matches 1 by 1)
If you were a real software dev it wouldn't surprise you that it's easy to quickly write a code that can gather that information with api. I had to write less than 40 lines of new code to do that (and half of them were done with some AI auto completion :P), the rest was copy and paste from my previous scripts.