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Subject: [idea] Helping small countries to grow

2020-05-20 16:41:07
Kemk to Kemk
Notionalise is only a little push for smaller countries, nothing else.
2020-05-20 16:49:00
Kemk to Kemk
This is my school
Juvenils provinents d`aquest equip
Nom Edat Equip actual Data de transferència Import de transferència
Benet Tutusaus 19 F.C. Lleida
Quel Reixach 17 F.C. Lleida
Gaspar Guardiola 17 LFC Warszawa 2020-04-12 1 123 250 €
Pau Dallarès 19 F.C. Lleida
Salomó Masoliver 19 F.C. Lleida
Valeri Bueno 18 F.T. Madrid 2020-04-17 1 €
Ivan Baixenc 18 AS Socam 2020-03-23 1 €
Edmon Fillet 18 ECONOMICS 2020-03-22 14 375 €
Renat Creixell 19 United Arad 2020-03-08 2 €
Marc Baixenc 20 F.C. Lleida
Damià Escrivà 19 Karabüksipor 2020-02-13 2 €
Ismael Major 22 PROSTO Ustroń 2019-12-02 1 €
Iñaki Puig-arnal 20 Purmerend City 2019-11-27 110 000 €
Amili Busquets 19 FC Zacier 2019-11-02 200 000 €
Albert Belis 21 Devil Driver 2019-09-21 2 000 €
Climent Soyez 20 F.C. Lleida
Melcior Casanellas 20 Futbalová akadémia mládeže 2019-09-08 1 €
Boi Aldosa 22 F.C. Lleida
Josep Dafis 22 BB Buttkickers 2019-07-24 404 000 €
Joel Obiols 22 burkittsville ricco 2019-06-15 32 000 €
Garau Gené 21 Athletic Zacisze 2019-04-28 2 750 €
Job Rodríguez 23 F.C. Lleida
Llàtzer Guilló 22 FC Zacier 2019-04-28 134 250 €
Ponç Freixas 21 Ursus Warszawa 2019-03-17 250 €
Germà Armengol 22 F.C. Lleida
Francesc Cascudo 23 FC Zacier 2019-02-24 1 793 250 €
Salvador Duedra 22 F.C. Lleida
Adrià Taltavull 23 F.C. Lleida
Renat Fàbregas 23 S.E. Barreto 2019-03-24 39 000 €
Txema Fité 22 FC Tarnów 2019-02-24 1 163 500 €
Quimet Pagès 22 toro 2019-04-10 879 875 €
Indíbil Trullols 22 BUĞRA-JOBBIK 2019-01-02 160 250 €
Dalmau Caballé 24 F.C. Lleida
Mateu Nebot 22 DNB KladnoCity 2018-12-26 759 000 €
Antoni Molné 23 Iras Plon Garbatka 2018-12-17 216 750 €
Darius Pàmies 22 Ursus Warszawa 2018-11-29 1 €
Indíbil Dabau 23 F.C. Lleida
Bertomeu Casanellas 24 F.C. Lleida
Josep Oriol Sot 22 KP Gostyń 2018-11-03 1 €
Isaïes Guimerà 22 macsquad 2018-11-03 27 000 €
Asdrúbal Català 23 King Kong Dolls 2019-04-24 819 500 €
Rubèn Cellers 26 SK ITALVEN 2018-09-21 250 €
Rafel Smith 24 Ursus Warszawa 2018-09-21 250 €
Blai Agustí 23 FC CIOCANARII 2018-08-18 2 750 €
Delfí Cabanne 25 FC Zacier 2018-08-19 331 500 €
Nil Vilarrasa 25 Snow F.C. 2018-08-19 655 500 €
Nofre Roldan 24 inter milan(bm) 2018-06-30 45 000 €
Prudenci Gallaudí 23 FC Zacier 2018-06-30 1 €
Gelabert Ruiz 26 Ducci FC 2018-06-26 1 500 €
Cristòfor Biadera 24 Ursus Warszawa 2018-09-21 13 000 €
Baptista Resende 26 Ursus Warszawa 2018-09-21 250 €
Ramonet Albinyà 25 F.C. Lleida
Pere Pau Salvadó 24 PEBROTS 2018-04-28 1 €
Emili Escribà 25 kirifosca 2018-07-22 1 251 €
Guifré Verdaguer 25 d.b.99 2018-04-30 1 €
Delfí Gallaudí 24 theentersandman 2018-09-21 250 €
Maurici Galvany 25 PEBROTS 2018-03-24 83 000 €
Ildefons Català 25 F.C. Lleida
Maties San Nicolas 24 Festung Breslau FC 2018-02-17 1 €
Juli Gener 27 Black Star F.C. 2018-01-27 1 251 €
Constantí Torras 25 Ursus Warszawa 2018-01-13 63 750 €
Dalmau Urioste 26 Piczochy NieSzcze$cin 2017-12-11 1 €
Àngel Riu 26 d.b.99 2017-10-30 1 €
Fred Ros 26 Silesia Miechowice 2018-08-19 920 313 €
Peret Moreno 29 F.C. Lleida
Germà Vidal 27 Radecki 2020-02-01 9 743 500 €
Gerard Baixech 28 manchester undt 2017-06-25 50 000 €
Quim Adam 29 FC GLAZURNIK 2017-05-27 1 €
Gabriel Rull 30 Segel Olimpia 2017-05-27 230 400 €
Tomeu Gumà 27 SAMRIK F.C 2017-03-05 6 875 €
Eliseu Aguarta 29 MECHICO 2017-05-27 40 500 €
Renat Ortego 29 ZKS Warta Zawiercie 2017-06-25 4 474 750 €
Armand Calloni 28 nyU 2017-04-09 145 750 €
Quelot Bertran 30 The Mighty Stealth Boma 2016-10-15 301 500 €
Pere Alcalde 32 Zeleziari 2016-08-26 128 750 €
Santi Forcadell 31 Kırklarelispor 2016-08-24 2 503 €
Amat Gallar 29 Phantom 2017-07-02 2 308 500 €
Aaron Portas 31 F.C. Sarmalutza 2016-08-25 227 500 €
Xevi Portas 31 cosmik rangers 2016-07-14 111 000 €
Alfons Maragall 30 PYRLANDIA 1922 2016-06-08 1 €
Aleix Batalla 32 Gamborimbos FC 2016-07-17 63 750 €
Melcior Abat 32 Club Atlético Santiago 2017-07-16 3 614 000 €
Jofre Boronat 33 F.C. Lleida
Alexandre Company 33 Duch Puszczy Białystok 2016-04-06 21 250 €
Quel Riera 36 TAO 2015-09-19 7 000 €
Armand Ribó 33 FC Mintokur 2015-10-06 148 000 €
Guifré Marsà 33 maya 2015-06-07 255 000 €
Santiago Trullols 35 Retoinno 2015-06-07 25 000 €
Feliu Pons 35 Blue Mountain State 2015-05-25 145 000 €
Serafí Lloreda 36 Rudar Vrdnik 2015-04-19 41 250 €
Baldric Gallart 36 Hot Club Lions 2016-05-17 5 610 000 €
Renat Peter 35 Pivo FC 2019-01-16 8 491 000 €
Rossend Albà 35 P.K.S.OHAJO 2015-06-08 152 000 €
Aaron Guillemó 37 Xx Real Madrid xX 2014-09-04 440 640 €
Samir Francès 39 WKS Morgi 2014-08-24 261 000 €
Pep Marsinyac 38 Czarni Sochaczew 2014-06-02 306 000 €
Constantí Muntanya 38 fulger2010 2014-01-11 3 201 250 €
Tom Bevià 39 Coca Banana 2014-04-09 1 000 000 €
Aaron Albós 38 Óbudai Goldberger SE 2014-01-07 26 250 €
Salvador Torres 39 F.C. Lleida
Jan Serratacó 38 Atletico Missalense 2013-12-07 100 000 €
Job Albós 39 livada cu pomi 2016-10-17 6 780 000 €
Jan Calloni 42 Liga Deportiva Alajuelense #12 2013-05-17 1 020 000 €
Octavi Grandpierre 48 Club Atlético Banfield 2014-09-21 4 156 000 €
Total: 63 636 749 $
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2020-05-20 18:28:24
The idea is good, but why the hell do I want foreign players in my youth school when I would rather train players for my country? What does the applicant of this thread say to this?

How can you get individual managers to spend a little more money to attract foreign players to your school?
2020-05-20 20:39:11
The idea is good, but why the hell do I want foreign players in my youth school when I would rather train players for my country? What does the applicant of this thread say to this?
it wouldn't be obligatory; You aren't the only one with such attitude and Karsten was the first one
generally, the solution is pretty simple - You choose to have or haven't foreign juniors and that's all

How can you get individual managers to spend a little more money to attract foreign players to your school?
that's hard and I don't know, that's why I suggest it being free of charge
I already wrote about it a couple of times - if the scout/junior would be payable then why anyone would pay for him if he can get the same junior just from his own country for free? (this way almost always no one would pay for foreign junior) and potential response like foreign junior being just better (skill-wise) would cause also another, just reversed question - who wouldn't pay for for foreign junior if that junior would be better junior than normal one? (and this way everyone would always choose to pay for foreign junior because this gives better chances to gain better junior)
So finally I think that is't the best to leave it free of charge, just an option for every manager with YS to support countries with low YS-power
2020-05-21 00:38:01
I think it should be free, but I think it should be compulsory.

Why would you want another nationality in your youth school? Because you know overall, it is better for your country if every youth coming in to sokker has a random % chance of being from another country.

So you may miss out on 1 or 2 players a season, but your country gets a lot more.

So it's a matter of giving just a tiny bit, to receive a lot
2020-05-21 23:40:24
I see: Because I forgot that even outside my country, players from my nation can emerge. It is feasible, but it requires a lot of voluntary work.

Basically I support the idea that weaker nations (by that I mean the nations with few users) get a little more player material for his country.
2020-05-22 02:42:43
get @Ortwin in that country :) he is whole national team you do not need much users for that ...
2020-05-22 21:07:51
I think the only entrance, and what keeps players from small countries, is the youth school, and having the pride that their youth is on the national team, is not about economics, but about pride. In any case, if you make the decision to make an international school in countries that really need it, for example: that have less than 10 users only in those countries, your idea would work, although I don't think it works correctly.
2020-05-22 21:54:49
For all those who don't really understand the idea or the benefits for small(er) countries; see post from achmid on page 8 (half way)
2020-05-22 21:57:59
Less than 10 users means max 9 YS - it's pretty much obvious that all of them will have their player in NT. It's nice to have one or two but I am not sure if they are that proud of it, because in their cases it is easy, due to lack of competition.

Wouldn't it be better if they have country-power of let's say 20-30 YS? More players, more better players and still 1/3 of these would originate from their teams.
2020-05-22 22:26:22
So why not take the idea of @daishinkan-sama? It would be better to nationalize outstanding players to small countries. (Page 6)
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2020-05-22 22:30:12
I think 20 or 30 users can fend for themselves.
2020-05-22 22:44:53
yes, that's why I suggested that number, I am still talking about the same country, the one with less than 10 users
they would have these 9 YS + number of juniors originating from other teams on all around the world which in summary would give them YS-power of 20-30 YS
2020-05-22 23:00:49
But if your school starts competing with the schools of those weak countries, the whole selection of that weak team will be from your club and none will be native to their country. Don't you think it would be unfair?
2020-05-22 23:06:44
the whole selection of that weak team will be from your club and none will be native to their country

With 3 to 5% chance, a youth player will be from a random foreign country, I think if that's the case, they better scrap the country... The possibility for that to even happen is near impossible...
2020-05-22 23:47:55
I understand Your concerns, but I think that in weak countries there are also at least brilliant junior coaches and juniors talent etc. are all random so there would be no big difference in junior quality output between YS like mine and YS from weak country so ultimately it all boils down to who have how much juniors and 1/3 will be from weak country in this case (and even including coach quality brilliant in weak country and unearthly in all others it would be like 1/4 so 25% would originate from the weak country which is still good ratio).