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Subject: [change] Sponsorship between countries
Good to see you are now admitting I do have a loss of sponsorship.
Now they can finally fix the inequalities that allow teams from large nations get ahead so quickly, and hold teams from small nations back
Now they can finally fix the inequalities that allow teams from large nations get ahead so quickly, and hold teams from small nations back
I can teach you how to trade if tou want so you will stop to think that the loss of sponsorship is the cause of all your problems.
Given your last 2months of resales has netted you a loss of 2 112 500 $ I think I might take my money elsewhere.
And that only 35% of your last 20 resales, actually sold for a profit (and that isn't even taking in to account listing prices or transfer fees etc.).
There are some very easy ways to inflate profit based on just the transfers section. There is one team going around, who buys and sells keepers, and their transfers look amazing, but when you watch them, they constantly list players for an amount and need to pay the 2.5% listing fee each time. So far he has lost over 500 000 $ on just one player he has tried listing, but this doesn't show up in transfers. And watching, I know a lot more has been lost in listing fees on other players too.
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Given your last 2months of resales has netted you a loss of 2 112 500 $ I think I might take my money elsewhere.
And that only 35% of your last 20 resales, actually sold for a profit (and that isn't even taking in to account listing prices or transfer fees etc.).
There are some very easy ways to inflate profit based on just the transfers section. There is one team going around, who buys and sells keepers, and their transfers look amazing, but when you watch them, they constantly list players for an amount and need to pay the 2.5% listing fee each time. So far he has lost over 500 000 $ on just one player he has tried listing, but this doesn't show up in transfers. And watching, I know a lot more has been lost in listing fees on other players too.
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You misread me, I still think the loss of sponsorship if perfectly fair.
You just need to learn how to play this game but don't worry I am here to help you.
You just need to learn how to play this game but don't worry I am here to help you.
You should check my whole balance but what you noticed is exactly the problems we need to face in medium countries.
To be obliged to buy some old players to try to avoid relegation and to sell them with a loss if relegation happens.
But this is something you cannot understand while sitting confortably in the Australian 1st league.
To be obliged to buy some old players to try to avoid relegation and to sell them with a loss if relegation happens.
But this is something you cannot understand while sitting confortably in the Australian 1st league.
Ah good to know, you are all for unfair biases in the game, provided you are getting more money and missing out.
That's all that is needed to see your point on this subject. Proving that you see you get advantages to progress in the game, and small countries get held back, regardless of how good a manager they are.
That's all that is needed to see your point on this subject. Proving that you see you get advantages to progress in the game, and small countries get held back, regardless of how good a manager they are.
but what you noticed is exactly the problems we need to face in medium countries.
You mean being able to have the luxury of being able to make poor transfer market decisions and lose millions without crippling your team, something you wouldn't know because you are given large amounts of extra money just for being in a large country, but which takes multiple seasons to get in a small country.
It's also funny that you think it's fair we receive less money in the top division, where we have no opportunity to increase the amount we get, but somehow you deserve more money and still have the opportunity to raise the money even more just by promoting.
Your logic is entertaining to read, because your ratings wouldn't be anywhere near what they are now if it weren't for you getting so much more money from the time you started playing, but feel you deserve even more benefits.
And given my team (my old team) got ratings in to the 70's, but with less members than France currently has now, and without being pulled up by older teams around to get there quick, as I started not long after sokker did, I can safely say, I know how to play the game, and how to make the best of the situations presented to me, but I will still fight to make sure the game is equal for all.
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You mean being able to have the luxury of being able to make poor transfer market decisions and lose millions without crippling your team, something you wouldn't know because you are given large amounts of extra money just for being in a large country, but which takes multiple seasons to get in a small country.
It's also funny that you think it's fair we receive less money in the top division, where we have no opportunity to increase the amount we get, but somehow you deserve more money and still have the opportunity to raise the money even more just by promoting.
Your logic is entertaining to read, because your ratings wouldn't be anywhere near what they are now if it weren't for you getting so much more money from the time you started playing, but feel you deserve even more benefits.
And given my team (my old team) got ratings in to the 70's, but with less members than France currently has now, and without being pulled up by older teams around to get there quick, as I started not long after sokker did, I can safely say, I know how to play the game, and how to make the best of the situations presented to me, but I will still fight to make sure the game is equal for all.
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We don't care about sponsorship when trading is the real source or income but I am not going to repeat what Juytt already explained.
You were more funny when you were accusing the devs of poll manipulation because you didn't agree with the results, at least we knew you didn't mean to be serious.
You were more funny when you were accusing the devs of poll manipulation because you didn't agree with the results, at least we knew you didn't mean to be serious.
And once again, you miss the point of expendable income (you know, all that extra money you get that was so unimportant that you decided to rename your team name 7 times (at 50 000 $ each time) in the middle of last season, along with your stadium name).
But we know you really didn't miss, that, you just choose to ignore it because you have no argument against it, and realise the system is unfair, but are trying your hardest to hold on to your advantage as opposed to making sure everyone has a fair opportunity
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But we know you really didn't miss, that, you just choose to ignore it because you have no argument against it, and realise the system is unfair, but are trying your hardest to hold on to your advantage as opposed to making sure everyone has a fair opportunity
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you know, all that extra money you get that was so unimportant that you decided to rename your team name 7 times (at 50 000 € each time
Lol not this is thanks to my 45M euros transfer balance.
Don't worry, with my 2M euros loss on my old players after my relegation, this compensate a few seasons of sponsorship you lost while farming in 1st league before you will be able to fight for CC in few seasons if you are not too bad at this game.
Lol not this is thanks to my 45M euros transfer balance.
Don't worry, with my 2M euros loss on my old players after my relegation, this compensate a few seasons of sponsorship you lost while farming in 1st league before you will be able to fight for CC in few seasons if you are not too bad at this game.
Lol not this is thanks to my 45M euros transfer balance.
Which is due to the headstart and continued money coming in week to week above what small countries can get
Don't worry, with my 2M euros loss on my old players after my relegation, this compensate a few seasons of sponsorship you lost while farming in 1st league before you will be able to fight for CC in few seasons if you are not too bad at this game.
Yes, the CC which I cannot compete in if I do make it, because we receive less than 2/3 that they do in sponsorship, and even less than that in gate receipts, meaning we miss out on approximately 4-7M euro per season without even looking at transfers
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Which is due to the headstart and continued money coming in week to week above what small countries can get
Don't worry, with my 2M euros loss on my old players after my relegation, this compensate a few seasons of sponsorship you lost while farming in 1st league before you will be able to fight for CC in few seasons if you are not too bad at this game.
Yes, the CC which I cannot compete in if I do make it, because we receive less than 2/3 that they do in sponsorship, and even less than that in gate receipts, meaning we miss out on approximately 4-7M euro per season without even looking at transfers
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Dont worry, Luxembourg champion did it. So just stop complaining non stop and start to play this game seriously !
And Luxembourg champion had to save for 13yrs and went broke doing it because his 187 500 $ sponsorship couldn't maintain it :D
so please, keep trying to say how one example of someone spending 13yrs of savings, going broke and leaving the game, somehow proves the inequality wrong when the other winners can maintain their teams and continue playing
Also I do love how you keep saying sponsorship is nothing. On average, French div 3 (and you have been in div2 and div 4) averages about 300 000 $. You have been around 195weeks
195x300 000 $=58 500 000 $ which is a lot more than your 43 750 000 $ which also has 5% taken off it minimum from transfer expenses bringing it down to 41 562 500 $. We would have to bring average div 3 sponsorship all the way down to 213 125 $ just to make the value equal, and this still wouldn't back up your statement that sponsorship means nothing)
So it seems like sponsorship is actually not a small amount at all
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so please, keep trying to say how one example of someone spending 13yrs of savings, going broke and leaving the game, somehow proves the inequality wrong when the other winners can maintain their teams and continue playing
Also I do love how you keep saying sponsorship is nothing. On average, French div 3 (and you have been in div2 and div 4) averages about 300 000 $. You have been around 195weeks
195x300 000 $=58 500 000 $ which is a lot more than your 43 750 000 $ which also has 5% taken off it minimum from transfer expenses bringing it down to 41 562 500 $. We would have to bring average div 3 sponsorship all the way down to 213 125 $ just to make the value equal, and this still wouldn't back up your statement that sponsorship means nothing)
So it seems like sponsorship is actually not a small amount at all
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I don't know from where your figures are coming but you are wrong.
I got for example 218 351 € on 29/08 (Div2) and 180 665 € on 05/09 (div 3), far from the 300 000 € you are mentionning.
Didn't know the Luxembourg CC winner were broken, but you seem to be well informed.
Once again, you don't want to take into consideration the loss on old players in medium countries because this doesn't fit into your argumentation. Right, this is your choice, but please just stop pretending to be the white knight here fighting for some user rights. You are just focus on your situation, blindly, accusing the ones who disagree with you to be unfair the same way you were accusating the devs of manipulating the polls.
I got for example 218 351 € on 29/08 (Div2) and 180 665 € on 05/09 (div 3), far from the 300 000 € you are mentionning.
Didn't know the Luxembourg CC winner were broken, but you seem to be well informed.
Once again, you don't want to take into consideration the loss on old players in medium countries because this doesn't fit into your argumentation. Right, this is your choice, but please just stop pretending to be the white knight here fighting for some user rights. You are just focus on your situation, blindly, accusing the ones who disagree with you to be unfair the same way you were accusating the devs of manipulating the polls.
I got for example 218 351 € on 29/08 (Div2) and 180 665 € on 05/09 (div 3), far from the 300 000 € you are mentionning.
Yeah but here you are giving figures based on furious supporters, which only happened because your poor tactics made you come 8th in Div 2 (and I say poor tactics because in half your games, you rated within 4 points of the other teams, and even outrated the other teams in some matches).
I get my figures from another one of the larger countries in sokker which France would be on a similar level.
Once again, you don't want to take into consideration the loss on old players in medium countries because this doesn't fit into your argumentation
Actually this happens in all countries because everyone is fighting to be the best in their country which means buying in old players to try and strengthen
You are just focus on your situation, blindly
Actually, given I've proven, and you even agreed, that you get paid more purely for being in a big country, this kind of doesnt fit your situation that I am "blindly" doing it. Also other small nation users have also stated it, and some large nation users have also realised it.
Yet your argument is you deserve more because your leagues are stronger, but they are only stronger because everyone else in the league also gets more, meaning you actually aren't any better off, other than because everyone in your country gets more than they would if they were in a small country, you get an advantage on the transfer market.
Anyway feel free to keep posting, because I'm off to bed, and every one of your arguments has been completely destroyed tonight by facts and logic.
And I don't really need to (but I probably will continue to) post here any more, because with all the extra discussion and bumping of this thread you have helped with, I know by now it has been seen and the arguments taken on board, and the more I post, the more it strengthens the inequalities, especially when it's seen that large nation users can also see it, and use flimsy excuses for why they deserve to get more almost from day 1 of joining sokker
Yeah but here you are giving figures based on furious supporters, which only happened because your poor tactics made you come 8th in Div 2 (and I say poor tactics because in half your games, you rated within 4 points of the other teams, and even outrated the other teams in some matches).
I get my figures from another one of the larger countries in sokker which France would be on a similar level.
Once again, you don't want to take into consideration the loss on old players in medium countries because this doesn't fit into your argumentation
Actually this happens in all countries because everyone is fighting to be the best in their country which means buying in old players to try and strengthen
You are just focus on your situation, blindly
Actually, given I've proven, and you even agreed, that you get paid more purely for being in a big country, this kind of doesnt fit your situation that I am "blindly" doing it. Also other small nation users have also stated it, and some large nation users have also realised it.
Yet your argument is you deserve more because your leagues are stronger, but they are only stronger because everyone else in the league also gets more, meaning you actually aren't any better off, other than because everyone in your country gets more than they would if they were in a small country, you get an advantage on the transfer market.
Anyway feel free to keep posting, because I'm off to bed, and every one of your arguments has been completely destroyed tonight by facts and logic.
And I don't really need to (but I probably will continue to) post here any more, because with all the extra discussion and bumping of this thread you have helped with, I know by now it has been seen and the arguments taken on board, and the more I post, the more it strengthens the inequalities, especially when it's seen that large nation users can also see it, and use flimsy excuses for why they deserve to get more almost from day 1 of joining sokker
loss on old players in medium countries
Oh and France isn't a "medium" sized country. It is one of the 15 countries in sokker with 4 divisions out of the 98 that exist.
Therefore, it is a large country
Oh and France isn't a "medium" sized country. It is one of the 15 countries in sokker with 4 divisions out of the 98 that exist.
Therefore, it is a large country
I know I am not good at tactics, and what ?
I stop here, keep thinking you are the only one having the truth if you want.
We all saw you accusing devs of polls manipulation when the results were not aligned with what YOU wanted so for me your credit is very low man. I just don't like to see you spamming here like you did before just to make the devs think that everybody is sharing your opinions.
You just make some noise in the void man.
I stop here, keep thinking you are the only one having the truth if you want.
We all saw you accusing devs of polls manipulation when the results were not aligned with what YOU wanted so for me your credit is very low man. I just don't like to see you spamming here like you did before just to make the devs think that everybody is sharing your opinions.
You just make some noise in the void man.