Subject: [idea] Plegde on TA

I can't help myself with ideas...

The idea is that you can commit to automatic bid when a player that is advertised becomes listed for a transfer.
Example: You pledge 20 million for a player on TA. Owner of the player accepts the pledge. Game instantly puts the player on TL. Game instantly bids 20 million in your club's name.

Few ideas about rules:
- Your finances treat pledges as bids. If you have 30 million, but you had pledged 20 million, you can make bids and other pledges up to 10 million.
- Pledges last up to 24 hours (or more, or less).
- Pledges can be removed after 5 minutes (or instantly).
- Pledges can be rejected.
- You can make up to 3 pledges per day (or another number).

Reasons to implement the idea:
- Deal security. If you are selling, you know that there will be a bid that was negotiated. No need to risk wasting money on taxes for nothing, or risk underselling.
- Language barrier. It helps people who can't speak English. You can just make a pledge wait a bit for a response. No need to send even one message.

+1 very good idea

The fixed price transfer listing and tax for it are there for a reason

And what about TA, is TA pointless or is it there for a reason as well? Are you in favor of removing TA completely? If you are looking for a good deal, try fixed price, it's there for a reason, why advertise at all...

This idea just connects two existing concepts, TA and TL.

When teams make a deal on TA it's less the price than the day/hours (of TL) that could help to make a deal.

Ok it's more smooth, and resolve the language barrier. This change is also a security for the seller, ok, but... what's the interest for the buyer ? IMO, when a buyer put a pledge on TA, it's automatically send to TL with the buyer bid, no need a seller acceptance, so a buyer can anticipate a day/hour for the final bid. It's even more smooth (no more seller acceptance) and fair.

I would be nice if the buyer could also set a time of transfer.

The way the market is being ruined, I think more and more transfer will be arranged via TA.

And what about TA, is TA pointless or is it there for a reason as well? Are you in favor of removing TA completely? If you are looking for a good deal, try fixed price, it's there for a reason, why advertise at all...

it already works this way

you want to buy specific player - no such player on TL - you search TA - you find TA - you negotiate the price - seller puts him on TL [fixed price or not, his choice]

all You are proposing is creating a way to have a fixed price without the tax

It is fixed price without a tax right now.
You put player on TA and you agree on price, you put a player for 1 euro and he bids the agreed price. I play this game very long and noone ever mocked me in this way.
The difference what james offers that it would automatized and the buyer would make an offer. Now most of the time seller is writing expected price.
Anyway, there might be several opinions. I see this as an upgrade.

-1 . One of the best part of this game is having a bid war with someone else .

There is still risk in that though. Look at all those who felt angry when the servers went down because their players undersold (since they likely didn’t set a fixed price for what they wanted). I’m not opposed to the idea (if seller also got taxed as if that was the amount they initially listed for eg 20m in the example), though I don’t really see the point. Would people still be fine with that? If not then I agree with what borkos has said in that this idea is only to avoid tax and remove risk of underselling trying to pay as little as possible and that the process kind of already exists in principle at least.

Yea, people honor the deal, so it's already fixed price without the initial tax. But it's slow, which is not preferred. It wouldn't be definitely better way to sell players, but it would be a different way. TA is a waiting game. Sometimes you wait for weeks just for one message about your player on TA. Fixed price on TL would still have it's place in the game.

@Brokos
It seems to me that you want there to be a risk with TA transfers, just because it seems unfair to you compared to transfer directly trough TL. But the risk that you want to keep is users screwing over each other, that is bad.

It seems to me that everyone who is against this idea is actually against TA, because if we all want users to honor the TA deals, and we should, what's the issue with my idea?

I have no problem with TA. I just don't really see a point in making the transfer market more complicated with some pledges.

Just finally answer the question, do you want a normal tax on this pledge, or not? Or you just want an easy way to have a fixed price without the tax? :)

There will be 5% tax like on every transfer. How are you gonna tax a pledge? What are you talking about?

Answer me this, do you want deals made on TA to be honored?

Lol

So You just want a fixed price transfer without paying the % for the fixed price, useless topic

Thank you for your mind-reading... Have a good day.


Answer me this, do you want deals made on TA to be honored?

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Answer me this, do you want deals made on TA to be honored?

yes

but it has nothing to do with your idea

now you have three options:

1. putting on tl from 1 euro
2. putting from a fixed price + tax
3. using TA to find buyers + agreeing a price
a. you can risk and put on TL from 1 euro
b. you can put on TL for an agreed fixed price + tax

+ every TL has a time limit of 2 days = if you put from a fixed price, you pay a tax and have 2 days of hope that someone makes the bid

Now, why your idea is ridiculous, or why it would make it all too easy for the sellers.

Your idea is in fact a combination of BEST POSSIBLE characteristics of all the options available now for seller

a. no tax (like TL from 1 euro)
b. unlimited time (like TA)
c. price of your choice (like fixed price)

+ d. you decide whether you actually want to accept the offer

So yes, totally ridiculous