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Subject: U21 Wold Cup [III]

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2008-04-01 06:58:40
Group E
1. Österreich ................... 1 / 1 / 0 / 0 / 07 - 01 / 3p
2. Hong Kong .................. 1 / 1 / 0 / 0 / 03 - 00 / 3p
3. República Dominicana .. 1 / 0 / 0 / 1 / 00 - 03 / 0p
4. Ireland ....................... 1 / 0 / 0 / 1 / 01 - 07 / 0p


ROUND 1 (2008-04-05)
[09.00] Hong Kong - República Dominicana = 3 - 0 [A]
[13.00] IrelandÖsterreich = 1 - 7 [OK]

ROUND 2 (2008-04-12)
Hong KongIreland =
República DominicanaÖsterreich =

ROUND 3 (2008-04-19)
Österreich - Hong Kong =
Ireland - República Dominicana =

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A – means the losing team arrange another friendly instead of the group game
X – means the losing team use a player that isn’t under 21
OK – means that the game was play properly with all player under 21

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All team was in MWC and finish there on next places:

Eliminated in 1/4 Quaterfinal MWC
05. 33. Ireland 1764.73 ................. 5 / 4 / 0 / 1 / 15 - 08 / 12p [ C ] / Ganzengeile

Eliminated in 1/8 Quaterfinal MWC
10. 37. Österreich 1624.86...............4 / 3 / 0 / 1 / 14 - 02 / 9p [ E ] / Andreasson
14. 74. República Dominicana 808.44 4 / 1 / 2 / 1 / 12 - 06 / 5p [ F ] / Boyta

Eliminated in first round:
18. 82 Hong Kong 503.96............... 3 / 1 / 1 / 1 / 04 - 09 / 4p [ E ] / OchiReci
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2008-04-01 08:20:24
First 2 team from all group are qualificate, and also first 3 team place 3`th.

One good thing for us Republica Dominicana assign already a game for next week, so we win the game already with 3 - 0 , and we have a free week to experimentate a U21 line-up

Bad thing is the fact that Ireland and Osterreich are good team and will be hard for us to beat them.
2008-04-02 22:53:42
good luck
2008-04-03 04:57:09
Thank`s.
2008-04-05 08:33:23
Because we have a free week, and 3 pct in U21 WC, I make a friendly U21, against finalist from Mini World Cup "Australia"

Curently Australia is rank 31 in sokker, and we still are 82. Is no point in saying who will win, because the difference is two big betwen our team. But I prefer to see the young team [ at lest 7-8 new player will make there first step in this game ] in front of a good team. Value of one team is show in this kind of games not in friendly against small team. :)

Anywhay, hopefully we won`t get to many goal. I`m happy that the manager I bring in game curently provide me several NT player that will help me alot on U21 games.

Go Hong Kong
2008-04-05 09:26:18
First U21 Hong Kong international game against Australia = 0 - 11

7 goal from right side where my defence improvisation fail because the absense of 3`th good defender was kill by austalian player Maras

Other 3 goal from individual mystake, 1 autogol [ central defender ]. 1 mystake from left defender, and 1 from keeper who get a goal from 40 m who go directly throw him.

Last goal was collectiv fault.

Some player manage well there first game, but for some this might be the last :))

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We take 11 goal from 19 shots / and even if I like our keeper in some circumstance, his low skill make me have a big problem on this position. Left side midlefield diden`t play to much, but only because that flanc wasen`t to much time play.

9 Player play there first game in this match from 13 player I use.
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2008-04-12 09:28:36
U21 Hong Kong - U21 Ireland = 1 - 9

All field was equal except midelfield were we lose big time. I see again we are sitting ducks against striker with good quality.

Two U21 game, 20 goal recive ..this say alot about our power in young player curently. Even if Australia and Ireland are strong team is hard to see such a defeat.

Francly I was expecting more from this game, but wasen`t possible. Is hard to use a team with solid like average and without form and experience and expect a good result in front of team with player like Curley or Maras. Bowth U21 game was kill by one single enemy striker who don`t have a problem with all our 5 defender. Sad and the future isen`t to bright.
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2008-04-13 00:30:31
Well, the result is probably a little bit too high.

Anyway, I know you don't have good players, but Curley for example is weaker than Wai Yeung (who was in the advertisements this week, so I knew his skills).

The problem is the setting of your 3-men defense. There are too many holes in it! Put them closer together, and you won't receive that many goals.
It was easy for me to place my two strikers between your 3 defs, and so they got plenty of good scoring chances.

Put them closer together, so that the opponents striker can't just walk through ...

And if you expect the opponent playing with wingers, then use a 4 or 5 men defense.

Well, it's just an advice I'd like to give you, according to the marks (individual and team), Ireland doesn't have much better players than you have.

I know it's hard to play with these kind of players against a team which is much better, but I think you'd have gotten a few goals less if you had put the defenders closer together.

Again, I don't want to criticize you, don't understand me wrong! I just want to help! ;-)


Anyway, good luck next week against Austria! ;-)
2008-04-13 01:38:09
Thx, I know that problem, the main thing is that are 3 defender and 2 defensive midelfield.

I agree is a mystake of mine there, because the tactic. Main thing is that on midle we don`t have good play not even on first team, so I need to take on player from defence to put it there. On first team I use a single defensive midelfield and he with the 3 defender work great most of the time [ 2 of that defender was on field today ], but on U21 team was a mystake to use 3 also, I was confident in my 2 big team defender and on 3 newcomers in this 2 U21 games and I lose big time.

Rating diden`t means much after all, the difference is clear only because like in fotball is say : you player play biger battle than mine :). Most of the player are on first or second national game and don`t even have 10 game on club until now :), so is a start and in time they have all time to grow. Was better for me to have a u22 team because most of my first player are curently on that age.

Wai Yeung is good but he diden`t recive support from center and don`t have to many chance.

About the way Curley was enter betwen the defenders was visible from minute 3 from first goal, and already to far to change it. :D

Thank`s for advise, and about Austria they will win 3-0, I will arrange a friendly game with a lower rank team, is no point in losing another game, we lose 1 - 9 with you, you lose 1 - 7 with them, and they also beat us 1 - 7 on MWC. So on field will be much harder for us than on green table.

And we lose some ranking points in this 2 u21 game we need to get back. :D

Good luck on u21 wc you and Austria are already qualificate.
2008-04-13 03:11:35
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Group E
1. Österreich ................... 2 / 2 / 0 / 0 / 10 - 01 / 6p
2. Ireland ....................... 3 / 2 / 0 / 1 / 13 - 08 / 6p
3. Hong Kong .................. 2 / 1 / 0 / 1 / 04 - 09 / 3p
4. República Dominicana .. 3 / 0 / 0 / 3 / 00 - 09 / 0p

ROUND 1 (2008-04-05)
[09.00] Hong Kong - República Dominicana = 3 - 0 [A]
[13.00] IrelandÖsterreich = 1 - 7 [OK]

ROUND 2 (2008-04-12)
[09.00] Hong KongIreland = 1 – 9 [Ok]
República DominicanaÖsterreich = 0 – 3 [A]

ROUND 3 (2008-04-19)
[12.00] Österreich - Hong Kong =
[13.00] Ireland - República Dominicana = 3 – 0 [D]

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A – means the losing team arrange another friendly instead of the group game
X – means the losing team use a player that isn’t under 21
OK – means that the game was play properly with all player under 21
D – Disqualify team last match

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2008-04-13 11:19:54
Yeah, Austria is even much better than Ireland ... :-(

Ireland is qualified, but we won't participate in the U21 tournament. Like the match against Austria showed, we're much too weak! And we'd lose every match with 10+ goals, so I decided not to participate even though we could! ;-)

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If you don't have the players, well, then it's very difficult to play with a strong defense ... :-(
But you should try that your defenders can tackle the opposite strikers FRONTSIDE, that's the only chance you have to have successful tackles, at least that's my opinion ...

But you're right, you should try to play against teams which are as good as you are, it's much more fun, for both teams! ;-)

Anyway, good luck in your next matches! ;-)
2008-04-16 21:20:56
Good luck man. I love what you are doing for this country. :)
2008-04-17 10:39:52
Yeh you are doing a huge amount of work for Hong Kong. It is fantastic
2008-04-17 11:18:57
Thank you verry much :D
2008-04-26 06:47:52
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Group E
1. Österreich ................... 3 / 2 / 0 / 1 / 10 - 04 / 6p
2. Ireland ....................... 3 / 2 / 0 / 1 / 13 - 08 / 6p
3. Hong Kong .................. 3 / 2 / 0 / 1 / 07 - 09 / 6p
4. República Dominicana .. 3 / 0 / 0 / 3 / 00 - 09 / 0p

ROUND 1 (2008-04-05)
[09.00] Hong Kong - República Dominicana = 3 - 0 [A]
[13.00] IrelandÖsterreich = 1 - 7 [OK]

ROUND 2 (2008-04-12)
[09.00] Hong KongIreland = 1 – 9 [Ok]
[18.00] República DominicanaÖsterreich = 0 – 3 [A]

ROUND 3 (2008-04-19)
[12.00] Österreich - Hong Kong = 0 – 3 [A]
[13.00] Ireland - República Dominicana = 3 – 0 [D]

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A – means the losing team arrange another friendly instead of the group game
X – means the losing team use a player that isn’t under 21
OK – means that the game was play properly with all player under 21
D – Disqualify team last match

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We finish on rank 3, and was the best rank 3. Meaning we have the ticket for U21 WC, and also except this situation, because rank 2 Ireland diden`t intend to participate on MWC, we was direclty qualificate also. But because we only play 1 game on field and lose it and because our U21 team is just borning I decide to not take part in U21 WC, because I diden`t want to be a spare partner for all the team from there.
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2008-06-08 17:30:37
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