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Subject: 青年球員問題

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2010-04-11 08:57:37
alan90 [del] to All
想問下青年球員要達到什麼的水平才值得培養?例如主要技術達什麼水平,價值多少等等...
2010-04-11 10:14:22
我自己
1. 首先, 新青年技術水平唔夠5, 立即開除, 無謂浪費錢

2. 我會假設新黎青年 天賦 4, 假設20周畢業
即係佢會係 [本來 5技術 再加後來 (20周 除 4天賦) 即4 技術水平畢業 ]

3. 計完數, 發現球員畢業唔夠10技術水平, 我會炒
據經驗, 唔夠10技術水平出既球員, 實力好弱


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2010-04-11 17:26:41
I beg to differ on this. Player with initial skill less than 5 and final skill less than 10 can still be useful even for me, especially under the new system which the talents and skills can not be accurately derived.

For me, I will only fire all of those 16-year-old with skill less than 2, 17-year-old with skill less than 3, 18-year-old with skill less than 4 immediately

To me, the more important thing is to make sure there are around 2 to 3 berths remaining for new juniors every week. Suppose you have a junior squad which maximum capacity is 15, you may want to keep the number of players in the squad at around 12-13, so that you always possibly get new talents. If the squad is full, fire the worst players from the squad. If the squad has too few players, stop firing any until getting more players. This can save money while get the chance to acquire super talents.
2010-04-23 16:17:30
還想問一下你那個(20周 除 4天賦) 是根據什麼計算的?
2010-04-23 17:33:14
青訓有幾多lv??
我黎黎去去都係得3-4....=(
2010-04-23 17:42:51
你係指一入嚟嗰下?
我自己見過就可以去到7/8
2010-04-23 19:56:43
前言 - 球員正常一般4天賦左右

講多少少
年輕聰明球員可以 係 2 - 3 天賦
蠢球員 或者 22 - 23歲 會 5-8 先升都見過

天賦 係指
你練個種能力要幾多周先升
2010-04-23 19:58:04
青訓有幾多lv??

見過新黎既8技術
上限幾多唔知, 不過我自己最多出過 13
2010-04-28 12:33:44
from information in other forum, maximum skill level of a new junior is 7 (However the youth coach may wrongly predict juniors' skill, so it is possible to see an 8). The maximum level, theoratically, is 18, that is superdivine, but actually no juniors have good enough talent to reach this.
2010-04-29 15:16:28
到幾時搞青訓先係叫做比較好呢,而家我d青訓仲係好低水平3-4...儲下錢遲d規模大d,先再搞青訓係咪仲好?? =D
2010-04-29 15:46:12
你參考下呢位玩家 - 特肥魚腩
http://online.sokker.org/glowna.php?teamID=35593

佢完完全全唔玩青訓. 玩左兩季,
佢小組 同 HK CUP 成績都唔錯
係今季直升D1熱門之一

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我認為青訓教練 最起碼 要請個 13 綜合值
如果唔係出唔到D有用既人

我以前 D2 搞青訓, 好明白個苦況, 個個星期負資產
完完全全要靠買賣人黎維生

我個人建議 最好上到 D1 先搞
而家目標係儲實力上D1

係D2同League冇乜玩家, 實在太悶啦
2010-04-29 17:16:29
figure_concept你升左上d1係咪多左好多sponsor費,講唔講得around有幾多?
2010-04-29 17:30:56
D2 55萬
上到 D1 變左 140萬

即刻鬆動哂 ! ^^
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2010-04-29 22:01:52
140M....即刻唔同晒=D
2010-04-30 18:04:44
我反而覺得搞青訓好重要*
嗱唔係因為我係U21領隊先咁講啦 ...

我會話我啲錢最主要係來自賣青年軍,
http://online.sokker.org/transfers_player.php?ID_human=12520057
http://online.sokker.org/transfers_player.php?ID_human=13971177
http://online.sokker.org/transfers_player.php?ID_human=15514222
http://online.sokker.org/transfers_player.php?ID_human=13380004
http://online.sokker.org/transfers_player.php?ID_human=11137472
http://online.sokker.org/transfers_player.php?ID_human=13535135

賣佢地夾夾埋埋幫我搵到 5千幾萬
(我歷來總轉會收支係正4千萬)

無論你喺邊個級別都要練, 多錢咪練多啲人囉, 唔夠錢就只係留最好嘅十個八個
假設你練十個人, 加一個13嘅教練(周薪大約20萬), 咁每周用30萬, 一季就係16X30 = 480 萬
但例如你一抽中一個打龍門而係勁嘅, 一賣可以過千萬, 一千萬, 足足可以係你兩年主場收入加埋啦.
2010-04-30 20:08:54
wsfu :
我青訓搞左好耐都冇出過一個咁既人, 唔知係我黑仔定咩原因啦 @@
我既收入大部份來自炒賣人, 低買高賣政策

不過 Integrität 講既 有例子支持, 你睇下 Emerald Unicorn 既轉會紀錄
http://online.sokker.org/transfers_team.php?ID_team=35540
Singh Zhao - 賣左 26 908 750 HK$
就係最好既例子, 神級龍門
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