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When the people that hates the new ME starts to leave (and there is a lot of them) the number will decrease to decrease very fast. They don't stop imediately, they will wait the ME to change for a while since people have spent many years in this game. But eventually they will stop waiting and if nothing was done too many will leave, unfortunately. Hope devs seen their mistake in this ME.
We already know that the ME is not working good.. but lets keep trying to give our input and have them fine tune it.
Just posting about the fact we will all leave, will not make it change.
Just posting about the fact we will all leave, will not make it change.
Now it's really doomed :P Oh wait I'm wrong, numbers are still rising ;D
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When the people ... many will leave, unfortunately.
Assumption ....
Hope devs seen their mistake in this ME.
The biggest mistake is that it hasn't been changed sooner, now that it did change it only needs a bit more fine tuning, that's all.
Assumption ....
Hope devs seen their mistake in this ME.
The biggest mistake is that it hasn't been changed sooner, now that it did change it only needs a bit more fine tuning, that's all.
Agreed, once again.
Only thing I ask... and Im sure you dont know yet otherwise you would have mentioned it.
Is there going to be any upcoming news from them talking about what fine tuning they are making to the ME?
Only thing I ask... and Im sure you dont know yet otherwise you would have mentioned it.
Is there going to be any upcoming news from them talking about what fine tuning they are making to the ME?
Is there going to be any upcoming news from them talking about what fine tuning they are making to the ME?
No, no news yet. But all info that is useful is posted on the test server to show the DEVs. We have to wait and see what they will do with the info :)
No, no news yet. But all info that is useful is posted on the test server to show the DEVs. We have to wait and see what they will do with the info :)
In my opinion the ME still needs quite some "rough tuning". And a reintroduction to the influence of the tactical editor. But of course - all us complainers are just bad at adjusting and can only make dull tactics, or whatever...
Its really nice to see teams that never change their tactics (not even after the ME change) suddenly starts beating teams that spends hours preparing tactics to the specific match. Before, this preparation time were paying off - as it should. If you are lazy and predictable, it should be punishable - but alas - no more.
Its really nice to see teams that never change their tactics (not even after the ME change) suddenly starts beating teams that spends hours preparing tactics to the specific match. Before, this preparation time were paying off - as it should. If you are lazy and predictable, it should be punishable - but alas - no more.
+1
Did spend much time in tactics against my opponent this weekend.
I win this game always because he plays with the same tactic all the time.
Now the tactic was better than ever against him, even better than my 6-0 some seasons ago, but....for some reason my ATTs did miss everything and the ATT of the opponent did miss nothing....S:
Think of it that my ATTs have more striker....
Looks like the striker skill is not important anymore, just random if they score.
Edit: did see even stranger matches this weekend in Sokker with strikers without striker skill scoring and striker with high striker skill missing all.
Also the goalkeeper became a monster against superdivine strikers. impossible to score.
But..., if you have a ATT with weak striker it goes random in the goal against superdivine goalkeeper....very logical, not!
Don't know why i should train striker anymore :(
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Did spend much time in tactics against my opponent this weekend.
I win this game always because he plays with the same tactic all the time.
Now the tactic was better than ever against him, even better than my 6-0 some seasons ago, but....for some reason my ATTs did miss everything and the ATT of the opponent did miss nothing....S:
Think of it that my ATTs have more striker....
Looks like the striker skill is not important anymore, just random if they score.
Edit: did see even stranger matches this weekend in Sokker with strikers without striker skill scoring and striker with high striker skill missing all.
Also the goalkeeper became a monster against superdivine strikers. impossible to score.
But..., if you have a ATT with weak striker it goes random in the goal against superdivine goalkeeper....very logical, not!
Don't know why i should train striker anymore :(
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Its really nice to see teams that never change their tactics (not even after the ME change) suddenly starts beating teams that spends hours preparing tactics to the specific match. Before, this preparation time were paying off - as it should. If you are lazy and predictable, it should be punishable - but alas - no more.
But you forget to mention those teams that didn't change a thing and still get beaten by stronger teams and/or teams with better tactics, as they always has been beaten by these same teams. It's just how you want to look at it and which matches you want to use as an example ;)
I don't say it's perfect, just as the old ME also wasn't perfect from the start and has been tuned till the end. So that will happen again with this ME if needed.
But you forget to mention those teams that didn't change a thing and still get beaten by stronger teams and/or teams with better tactics, as they always has been beaten by these same teams. It's just how you want to look at it and which matches you want to use as an example ;)
I don't say it's perfect, just as the old ME also wasn't perfect from the start and has been tuned till the end. So that will happen again with this ME if needed.
But you forget to mention those teams that didn't change a thing and still get beaten by stronger teams and/or teams with better tactics, as they always has been beaten by these same teams. It's just how you want to look at it and which matches you want to use as an example ;)
No way, look at my story.
Correct for strikers with excellent/formidable striker maybe, but for strikers with (super)divine striker it is almost impossible to score. I think the ME is messed up because Greg did change something to let players score less.
Also totally don't understand the fact that wingers are useless now, you can't do that, all winger trainers lost all their money now.
I don't train wingers but it is really a pitty for all those people that do.
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No way, look at my story.
Correct for strikers with excellent/formidable striker maybe, but for strikers with (super)divine striker it is almost impossible to score. I think the ME is messed up because Greg did change something to let players score less.
Also totally don't understand the fact that wingers are useless now, you can't do that, all winger trainers lost all their money now.
I don't train wingers but it is really a pitty for all those people that do.
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Charles, will all due respect. In general you can be very objetive. And I know you are doing your job. But there is no questioning the ME has problems, is just how many. So lets focus on that.
We all cant get every other user that we have never been friends before to tell them to post all their problems. But there has been quite a large amount of users stating their problems, so lets open our eyes.
All we are really asking right now is for the Devs to post in the news WHEN they will make corrections and which ones so we can keep an eye on those new corrections for the next matches.
You are just the messenger, we know. So just keep asking them until they finally give some information.
I personally will do my best to try to get some users together and organized to state the exact minute in their or other teams games about the problems. I should not have to due all this since Im even paying to get a good service that Im not getting right now. But if not giving enough detailed minute in game problems, the reason why the devs have yet to do something, then I will do it so for them to have no other excuse.
We all cant get every other user that we have never been friends before to tell them to post all their problems. But there has been quite a large amount of users stating their problems, so lets open our eyes.
All we are really asking right now is for the Devs to post in the news WHEN they will make corrections and which ones so we can keep an eye on those new corrections for the next matches.
You are just the messenger, we know. So just keep asking them until they finally give some information.
I personally will do my best to try to get some users together and organized to state the exact minute in their or other teams games about the problems. I should not have to due all this since Im even paying to get a good service that Im not getting right now. But if not giving enough detailed minute in game problems, the reason why the devs have yet to do something, then I will do it so for them to have no other excuse.
And needed it is.
And I didn't forget anything. That teams with stronger tactics and a comparable team is still beating teams they were also beating with the old ME? I would only expect as much.
What I mean is that I don't like control being taken away from us as managers, and reward the lazy. If my opponent did not change his tactics for the last 20 matches, and I construct a tactic that should both block his defenders in all squares of the tactic editor and at the same time has my strikers/wing placed in the gaps of his defense, then I very much expect to have a GREAT advantage. But as it is now, I can twist and turn my head as much as I like - spending several hours. But his defenders might just auto-cover my strikers and my defenders may decide to pile themselves on top of a single enemy striker - ruining any thoughts I may have put into their positioning. Then you may say its the same for my opponent. Yes, but that doesn't remove the fact that "random" or uncontrollable factors are replacing tactical influence.
And I didn't forget anything. That teams with stronger tactics and a comparable team is still beating teams they were also beating with the old ME? I would only expect as much.
What I mean is that I don't like control being taken away from us as managers, and reward the lazy. If my opponent did not change his tactics for the last 20 matches, and I construct a tactic that should both block his defenders in all squares of the tactic editor and at the same time has my strikers/wing placed in the gaps of his defense, then I very much expect to have a GREAT advantage. But as it is now, I can twist and turn my head as much as I like - spending several hours. But his defenders might just auto-cover my strikers and my defenders may decide to pile themselves on top of a single enemy striker - ruining any thoughts I may have put into their positioning. Then you may say its the same for my opponent. Yes, but that doesn't remove the fact that "random" or uncontrollable factors are replacing tactical influence.