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This is my 3rd team in SK, i came originaly from HT ;)
the first 2 times i came here i looked at the skills and tought it was a cheap ripoff. second, the standard tactic is terrible. Watching matches with that is a pain for the eye. Besides that it cost around 3 tot 6 seasons to build a nice team, that is very long. In the Netherlands you play with a starter team (around 20-30 rating) often against teams with 50+ or... you play with 7 botteams both not very fun.
I tried to get friends from HT to SK. Most of them stopped because lack of time, difficultie to learn how you make a good tactic, trainingsetup etc etc
HT is easy, you can learn 80% of the game in a week. SK not. SK does not look good either, it is a boring site.
But for me, it is the only game. I stopped HT long ago because of sk is much better (my opinion)
the first 2 times i came here i looked at the skills and tought it was a cheap ripoff. second, the standard tactic is terrible. Watching matches with that is a pain for the eye. Besides that it cost around 3 tot 6 seasons to build a nice team, that is very long. In the Netherlands you play with a starter team (around 20-30 rating) often against teams with 50+ or... you play with 7 botteams both not very fun.
I tried to get friends from HT to SK. Most of them stopped because lack of time, difficultie to learn how you make a good tactic, trainingsetup etc etc
HT is easy, you can learn 80% of the game in a week. SK not. SK does not look good either, it is a boring site.
But for me, it is the only game. I stopped HT long ago because of sk is much better (my opinion)
It's a good (HT) and bad (SK) managment! HT begins like sokker but he grew-up and sokker no.
wow..a big drop..from 1 mln to ~550k. Its a lot...:O. maybe people realize that its better to play football outside home haha!
I also played HT and stayed with sokker only. maybe sokker its hard to play at the beginning but then you can have a really nice time in this game. Easy way its not always the best solution.
I dont think its a boring site. it offers nice 3d matches and HT doesnt.
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I also played HT and stayed with sokker only. maybe sokker its hard to play at the beginning but then you can have a really nice time in this game. Easy way its not always the best solution.
I dont think its a boring site. it offers nice 3d matches and HT doesnt.
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i dont want an easy manager ,....what do you you expect from standard tactic?A world cup tactic or what?DO you expect to sleep and let the game play for you,or do you want to join all the kidies from facebook and such..
its main reason why only elite will stay in sokker;)) 20k users but only the best;)
It would not have a very good basic tactic. But i think it would be better if the standard tactic was not as stupid as it is now :)
You have to attract users. I like it to work on tactics very much. But to keep playing there have to be enough managers to let the game exist. So for that reason people should not see a game that is difficult. It may be difficult, but they should not see that..... only if they invest time they see the full possibilities, then and only then they should see it is not easy ;)
with a reasonable standard tactic their matches are be better. But good managers still crack that tactic because it is standard.
besides that, the bugs in ME are bad for new users too. the balls kick out the pitch with no reason (even stupid for bad players)... things like that.
I do not care too much about all that stuff, i know how to deal with it for my team. But i play it long enough to realy like this game :)
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You have to attract users. I like it to work on tactics very much. But to keep playing there have to be enough managers to let the game exist. So for that reason people should not see a game that is difficult. It may be difficult, but they should not see that..... only if they invest time they see the full possibilities, then and only then they should see it is not easy ;)
with a reasonable standard tactic their matches are be better. But good managers still crack that tactic because it is standard.
besides that, the bugs in ME are bad for new users too. the balls kick out the pitch with no reason (even stupid for bad players)... things like that.
I do not care too much about all that stuff, i know how to deal with it for my team. But i play it long enough to realy like this game :)
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you like to work on tactics,so thats why you are still in the game ,new user who are lazy ..wont stay ..they go to facebook ,or travian or shit...
+1
i do prefer an exclusivist manager instead of 10 millions users
...but,20k it will be not so good,also i dont like lack of communication from devs
i do prefer an exclusivist manager instead of 10 millions users
...but,20k it will be not so good,also i dont like lack of communication from devs
There is no point joining sokker in the long term if you do not like to work on tactics.
The first 2 times, i did not understand how it worked. So i left....
I think lot of real potential users leave because of bad starttactic (first match you see, most of them did not find the tactical possibilities then)
Bit better tactic (more logic at least), much better explanantion about rules and how to make tactics would do much good. Much more info about how the game works.
I do not know what the lowest user/pus amount is to keep this game online. But i am afraid the borderline comes very close to us.
/edit: I assisted several teams that sometimes had their team since 2006 (!) and that never were told how they could make a tactic.
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I think lot of real potential users leave because of bad starttactic (first match you see, most of them did not find the tactical possibilities then)
Bit better tactic (more logic at least), much better explanantion about rules and how to make tactics would do much good. Much more info about how the game works.
I do not know what the lowest user/pus amount is to keep this game online. But i am afraid the borderline comes very close to us.
/edit: I assisted several teams that sometimes had their team since 2006 (!) and that never were told how they could make a tactic.
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this is my first and only sokker team,also i came from ht,of course,i did not understand much at first,but i've searched forums and ask and read and ask again ....didnt give up....the rest its history...
I think that start tactic could be good old english 4-4-2 and that would do the work. Managers would understand that easy :) everyone knows that tactic.
Yup, you and I are sort of forumadicts. :)
Lot of people aren't. They do not know how to search, do not know what to post and where. But they like the game.
When i see 'old' teams with strange things in their team (mostly bad tactics) i try to ask them a bit of how they play, what they like etc... at the end often i may explain how sokker works and help them get better and have more fun :)
But it is not my duty, it should be much more clear from the game itself.
*maked point, leaves this discussion before I repeat to much of my opinion ;) **
@Faitas, something like that. Simply move a bit op, a bit down, bit to the right, bit to the left. Nothing fancy :)
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Lot of people aren't. They do not know how to search, do not know what to post and where. But they like the game.
When i see 'old' teams with strange things in their team (mostly bad tactics) i try to ask them a bit of how they play, what they like etc... at the end often i may explain how sokker works and help them get better and have more fun :)
But it is not my duty, it should be much more clear from the game itself.
*maked point, leaves this discussion before I repeat to much of my opinion ;) **
@Faitas, something like that. Simply move a bit op, a bit down, bit to the right, bit to the left. Nothing fancy :)
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You would think you would want ONLY those users that have the urge to learn and not need to be "held by the hand" to learn the game.
But in Greg´s point of view... he wants to be able to keep more users in game thus he would have to add more options to make it even easier for new users. A pop up message the first week with a link to the rules and to the tactics... or a skmail with a link to it and a summary explanation.... something like that.
But in Greg´s point of view... he wants to be able to keep more users in game thus he would have to add more options to make it even easier for new users. A pop up message the first week with a link to the rules and to the tactics... or a skmail with a link to it and a summary explanation.... something like that.