Subject: »7170 managers in Sokker!

The only thing i see is that new people leave soon because of all this negative talking on the forum...
WOW! So the ads is not a problem! Forum is a problem! Send me some of your optimistic herbs!))
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In my post you can read that BOTH are a problem.
But of course it is more easy to point at others.
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New users don't even know how to use forum. I say this with tutor knowledge. The only thing they see is ads.

New users we have to keep for long time, so every negative thing in Sokker they will see is not ok for the game.

Being negative about Sokker is the same as destroying the game.
So if we want to destroy Sokker we have to go on this way on the forum.
Is that what we all want? I hope not.
We want to go back to 70k users i think, because that way there will be more money to make the game nicer. If we go to 20k users it will be impossible to make it better because there is no money to make it better...
So that is what i am trying to tell, with all those negative talking we will not move forward for sure.


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we just folow Greg's way)

Let us be positive :)
Why being negative also? In that case we are the same...

it's hard cause when i started playing i was sokkerfreak but after Me change i was sad(got used to it), after 3D matches I thought - who the hell cares and who in the world will use it, after arcade I thought - this is bullshit come on spend your time to improve the game and so more and more negativity every season :) but still some enjoyment cause of competition and fun training and still you wait hoping for a miracle. Actually miracle would be sokker sale cause people don't change :)

how to tell more if nobody is listening? Even if I did not agreed with changes in ME, I was quite as I do not know how to improve and I know that I can change my tactic

if arcade games wwere introduced, I told it is great

if they give my stupid PVA and almost bankrupt me, I told how similar cases cold be solved not to destroy club only becouse someone decide that price was too high (even if it wasn't) - nothing happen and similar cases can happen again

there is stil mistake with 2 tactics - noone care

I am telling what to go not to use stupid delay - nothing is happening, noone care

I told to prepare the way how to gain ideas from lower users and bring them higher and higher to prepare final offical priority list what will be improved.

So I will scream very negative, I hope I manage to convince at least one user not to buy plus. Yes, I am going to support or to organize strike. I told several times that untill this stupidity will remain, I will not buy plus and I will not be tutor. So I am quiting to support this stupidity immediatelly when my plus will finish. And I am trying to add others on my side and to do the same. Stop suport sokker till someone will stop to be blind and will start to listen users. It is my positive way how to improve this game.

Why new functionalities (3D, arcade, Junior leagues...) are not only for plus users? Or at least for some time? It would be fair. To tell we are only one with live matches and then tell but you must pay for it is just very stupid and very closed. It is negative screaming which will absolutely not help. Now sing as you want, but all the time it will be just funeral song of this game... unfortunatelly.

LOL :P Ofcourse, the DEVs must listen to you as you know it best, and if they don't listen you try to f*** this game as much as possible. 30.000 users = 30.000 opinions (at least), and often everyone thinks he/she knows best. Dream on!

Why don't you just quit? Why do you want to piss people of who have fun playing this game? Is your rl so shit you even take this shit to games people like to play and are having fun?
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great arguments ;)

relax and have funs single warrior ;) all the community is praud on you, you are doing very good job to make this game better. (to be clear, yes, I am ironic now as I am only selfish ass and the best manager on sokker, next year I am going to be czech NT member and I will win WC - yes, I am still ironic...)

I hope tommorow you will write that you are after few beers, because now you are completely out. Personal attacks are not they way of discussion.

It's not a personal attack, that's what you are telling us what you are doing on the forum. Pissing as much people off, telling them not to buy Plus anymore and not support Sokker anymore, because the DEVs don't do what you demand of them. So I'm sorry, I forgot to call you megalomanic ....

I'm afraid he is partly right. When nothing works ultimatum is final step.

as I told, no sense to discuss with you

you don't want to accept that pushing users to buy plus with delay is the most stupid thing done here. But it is. When you don't manage to push users to buy plus with other options, you will push them with the most stupid way.

ok, call me selfish megalomanic asshole, I will accept that it is not personal attack.

I don't want DEV to listen me, I don't think that I am the best on world (it is your turn). But I cannot accept this one stupidity. If you don't want to accept it, I don't care. If I am pissing people, they can write it to me, I will stop. But can you just accept the fact, that till now only one user was supposrting your idea? And how many users will supporting mine? At least 2 if i will take exactly what they write. Maybe I am not that one who is pissing of users. Just think, before you will write something.

yes, I am partly right. And of course, I am showing extreme cases, because with real situation noone will care...

Best ultimatum: just quit when you don't have fun anymore, and let others have their fun. Managers who don't like Sokker anymore or even really dislike the game but keep on playing day in day out, must be self sadists or something or really miserable people :/

EDIT: and/or just assholes who like to ruin the fun for others.

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I never told that I don't like this game, if yes, I would be immediatelly out. I like it, it is the reason why I want to change something. Only one thing - stupid delay. Than I will again only enjoy and I will not care about not working 2 tactics and other topics

I am enjoying it at the moment. May be you don't like it now, maybe you are self sadist :)

And believe me, this evening you give me another reason why to be here, why to go to forum why to disturb you. Thank you, you are great, I like you (and I am not ironic now).