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yes, sokker needs more money, that's true! that's how everything works in the world
there are two ways how to achieve that - ads or more plus users
so they made arcade matches, and it was great step in my opinion, it's just for plus users so it makes more sense to buy plus now, but why they made waiting time before the match? it ruined all the good steps before...
I think it would be better if they will continue in making some good improvements for plus users...maybe then more people will buy plus!
there are two ways how to achieve that - ads or more plus users
so they made arcade matches, and it was great step in my opinion, it's just for plus users so it makes more sense to buy plus now, but why they made waiting time before the match? it ruined all the good steps before...
I think it would be better if they will continue in making some good improvements for plus users...maybe then more people will buy plus!
there is many way to gain money, not only racket;) but for someone who steel leave by elementary school standards it must be difficult. just keep study Charly! one day understand that easiest way not always the best! you will not gain popularity or what ever by forcing people! if you need help, you can't force someone to help you! but it's the way Greg do... think about it net time when you'll say that it's normal.
there is to way to have more plus users:
- interesting features that will attract users to pay for plus
- put ads delay to force users to pay plus
first, demand to spend some time for develop such features. it's not so fast and you need to work, to create... second is much faster! but may cause some trouble... but preachers like Churly will sort out the situation!
- interesting features that will attract users to pay for plus
- put ads delay to force users to pay plus
first, demand to spend some time for develop such features. it's not so fast and you need to work, to create... second is much faster! but may cause some trouble... but preachers like Churly will sort out the situation!
so they made arcade matches, and it was great step in my opinion, it's just for plus users so it makes more sense to buy plus now, but why they made waiting time before the match? it ruined all the good steps before...
True :) I think it should have been discussed better before implementation. Many websites use ads in many different ways, discussing the different option could have prevent a lot frustrations.
I think it would be better if they will continue in making some good improvements for plus users...maybe then more people will buy plus!
That would best. But to make that happen money is needed, eg to pay the hours people work for Sokker, and also when people need to be hired. So as you also wrote, in the end it always comes back to money.
True :) I think it should have been discussed better before implementation. Many websites use ads in many different ways, discussing the different option could have prevent a lot frustrations.
I think it would be better if they will continue in making some good improvements for plus users...maybe then more people will buy plus!
That would best. But to make that happen money is needed, eg to pay the hours people work for Sokker, and also when people need to be hired. So as you also wrote, in the end it always comes back to money.
Yes but number of plus users has fallen since the change, and if you take those not wanting to extend their plus because of it, you have even less users paying plus, so it is clearly not a way to make money, only to scare away non-plus users, who might later on had bought plus...
I guess the devs have a steady job as a regular income. SK is just a hobby and the latest game developments tends to prove it's just like that.
Considering the income from Plus subscriptions, a simple calculation gives a monthly average income of around 5 000 € at the moment (2 600 plus users x 2,00 €) - 2,00 € being the approximate average price for a 1 month subscription.
This is quite fair even when you must pay for servers and extra !
My conclusion is that devs just want to make more money for their own purpose, not because they lack of money for running SK...
Of course, these are my only own speculations :)
E : Added "for running SK"
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Considering the income from Plus subscriptions, a simple calculation gives a monthly average income of around 5 000 € at the moment (2 600 plus users x 2,00 €) - 2,00 € being the approximate average price for a 1 month subscription.
This is quite fair even when you must pay for servers and extra !
My conclusion is that devs just want to make more money for their own purpose, not because they lack of money for running SK...
Of course, these are my only own speculations :)
E : Added "for running SK"
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You are turning it around. The number of managers dropped way before the Plus ad, so also the Plus incomes. It's not that the Plus ad made all the 35.000 managers quit, that happened way before that. And apparently of those who stayed and did buy Plus this income isn't enough to cover the costs anymore.
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Listen, it's clear that money coming from sokker is not spend for sokker and its clear this is not sokker help implement ! ADS are not to help sokker but to help Greg raise money ! its a fact that he lost the fight, he doesnt want to do anything anymore just get the cash so why the hell he doesnt sell this game.
I have seen this sell comment a few times and everytime I wonder: "when was the last time something became cheaper after being sold to a new owner?" The answer is, not in the world you and I live in!
When something is sold, the money it costs needs to be earned back again + profits (a new owner won't be some philanthrope or someone with a money tree in his garden), so this always ends up in higher prices, less userfriendly, more ads, etc etc etc.
And your assumption about what is done with the money is really based on nothing, only your own imagination. Don't spread these lies, it's not helping anyone, not even yourself.
When something is sold, the money it costs needs to be earned back again + profits (a new owner won't be some philanthrope or someone with a money tree in his garden), so this always ends up in higher prices, less userfriendly, more ads, etc etc etc.
And your assumption about what is done with the money is really based on nothing, only your own imagination. Don't spread these lies, it's not helping anyone, not even yourself.
It's not lies. And why not a philanthropist? who the hell are you I don't understand? are you Greg's cousin? It's clear that you are lying to yourself by covering his back.... why would you do that and go against us? hard working people? that money which I used for plus was not easy made and I really regret spending it. I got nothing, only bad emotions and such people like you only make it worse.
We are protesting against our country president Greg which hardened our living conditions and you are army general and command army forces to kill all protesters. And you say if you don't like this country - leave. That is what this dramatization looks like.
yes, this is what he supose was fighting, we don't say leave the game, we say improve the game. But he says 'leave the game'
what a controversy
what a controversy
If it's not a lie then show it to me.
And why not a philanthrope? Because that's pretty unrealistic to hope for. It's Sokker, a game, nothing more. It's not some WWF organisation doing good things for animals all over the world. It's just a game. Why would someone spend thousands of euros buying a game only for fun? You can hope for a philanthrope, but I rather be realistic.
hard working people? that money which I used for plus was not easy made and I really regret spending it. I got nothing, only bad emotions and such people like you only make it worse.
And this last sentence is what it is all about, you have bad emotions and now you are posting your shit on the forum. It's all about you and everyone must know, no, everyone must even feel the same as you do.
why would you do that and go against us?
You really don't understand you and some others are making it all even worse with your behaviour? Me and a lot of others are still having fun playing Sokker, and this is what you are trying to ruin. Now it's clear that you are the problem? It's not me posting my shit on the forum, or others who still have fun with Sokker, it is you and some others who post their shit! You don't like it anymore, just leave and let others have their fun. Find a new game you do like to play, much better for everyone :)
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And why not a philanthrope? Because that's pretty unrealistic to hope for. It's Sokker, a game, nothing more. It's not some WWF organisation doing good things for animals all over the world. It's just a game. Why would someone spend thousands of euros buying a game only for fun? You can hope for a philanthrope, but I rather be realistic.
hard working people? that money which I used for plus was not easy made and I really regret spending it. I got nothing, only bad emotions and such people like you only make it worse.
And this last sentence is what it is all about, you have bad emotions and now you are posting your shit on the forum. It's all about you and everyone must know, no, everyone must even feel the same as you do.
why would you do that and go against us?
You really don't understand you and some others are making it all even worse with your behaviour? Me and a lot of others are still having fun playing Sokker, and this is what you are trying to ruin. Now it's clear that you are the problem? It's not me posting my shit on the forum, or others who still have fun with Sokker, it is you and some others who post their shit! You don't like it anymore, just leave and let others have their fun. Find a new game you do like to play, much better for everyone :)
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