Subject: »7170 managers in Sokker!

This wasn't my point, I tried to say greg is creating new bot users that obviously they do nothing more than keep the amount of users of the game for example now over 20.000.

I tried once to send a welcoming skmail to arround 30 new users, 20 in spain and 10 in Canada. No answers recieved. Neither one or read. This is statistically impossible, no words about a game which has less than 40 users in a country (Canada) has that income of users.

either one or read. This is statistically impossible,

I noticed the same sometimes. The problem is new managers sign up, take a look around and choose not to play anymore because of whatever reason(s).

At the moment many don't login anymore after sign up. Because of this, after sign up something should be changed to make new managers stay longer and really give Sokker a try for at least 1 or 2 matches. Something like a better tutorial, the one send now is just not good enough (too long, too boring, and crappy pictures). Or some in-game tutorial so new managers can do some things right away and also learn Sokker options at the same time. And maybe also the option to send mails after sign up (maybe only to tutors if Spam needs to be prevented) so they can ask questions by mail and don't have to wait till sign up is fully accepted.

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actually it is possible

if you look at new users in Spain/Canada, then you can see that they are logging in, or at least logged in twice...

maybe they just don't care about answering a mail, or don't know how to answer it

30 users isn't much when we're talking about new users...they usually leave the game after they log in for the first time

So are you telling us that 99% of new users take the effort to register to an online freak game hidden as sokker is and they don't log in never for once. It would be hardly possible in others like hattrick, but sokker...

I know it's probably they don't know how to answer or check the skmail, but they didn't log in since they got registered and accepted.
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Just take a look at their sign up data. You will see 4 login times, that's the first and only sign up you will see with most new managers, after that no new sign up data anymore. So yes, they sign up, take a look around and never come back again.

I tried once to send a welcoming skmail to arround 30 new users, 20 in spain and 10 in Canada.

In Italy we have a team who sends a welcoming mail to each new user.

So are you telling us that 99% of new users take the effort to register to an online freak game hidden as sokker is and they don't log in never for once.

yes.

that's why Poland had +400 users registering weekly some time ago, but it was always around 18-20k of users at best. 90% of users left during the first weeks after registering.

So are you telling us that 99% of new users

This is the part you can explain, but you can't explain why so many new users get registered here being sokker as it is and his behaviour later. You're telling me that more than 20.000 polish registered this game in one year even if they didn't keep playing. Are you thought right about this number? We're talking about sokker, not playboy TV.

but you can't explain why so many new users

it's not many

top games have users counted in millions

couple of thousands is nothing

You're telling me that more than 20.000 polish registered this game in one year

actually more

year has 52 weeks

at one point Polish sokker had ~400 user registrations weekly, which gives us 20 800 users yearly.

but as I've said, they were leaving the game as soon as they registered. some logged in once, some never logged in.

Are you thought right about this number? We're talking about sokker, not playboy TV.

yes, I'm sure.

even now Poland has +50/80 users weekly.

60 new registries/week = 3 120 new users in Poland / year

there was never a problem with new users registering in sokker, the problem was that they left the game as soon as they saw how it looks after logging in

if sokker was more user-friendly and better looking [previous design looked like shit even when it was created and it was kept for years...] then it would easily reach over 500 000 users at one point...
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I can perfectly picture someone arriving at sokker.org for whatever reason, deciding to give it a try in the spur of the moment, checking his inbox immediately... checking again 30 seconds later.. checking 2 minutes later... and forgetting he ever applied for the team.
I do not know if the ability to try Sokker the very moment you sign up to it will really make more users stay in the long run. Maybe a user that can't wait to get a team will also get frustrated way early into the game and quit in a few days. But it may be the case that in this saturated market, full of "click here" hidden links to online games of all kinds, someone will have the bare minimum interest to "get in and check" at a very specific point in time, but that curiosity will go as it came if not immediately satisfied...

I can perfectly picture someone arriving at sokker.org and saying, "What!? There is no tutorial?"

for me, 20.000 new users in any country even if you count whole world with the marketing sokker has, it's totally unbelievable

lol

why? I give you real numbers. Now Poland has +50-80 registered users a week. Some time ago Poland had 400+ weekly.

what's there to believe? it's pure math.

ghost user

Didnt log for 5-6 months...

That manager is a tutor, it seems staff won't always be deleted. Should be deleted of course, this isn't the only example, I found more examples a couple of month ago.

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Just one example, there are others who are not tutors... When they do cleanup it will slash number of users well under 20k...

I was surprised when I found out that a lot of users in Bosnia stopped watching games since that timer was implemented... I guess same goes for other countries. That was a bad move, because of that main page doesnt have demo link like it used to and that is sokkers selling point.