Subject: percentage of training

I will repeat.

NT players don't receive more training if play a league/friendly/cup game!! He receives 30% if plays ONLY the NT match.

From rules:

If they play only in an international, they will receive around 33% of the normal training.

hmm... i had thought if you play in a league game and NT that it was 100%.. apparently not so?

In my opinion (according with rules), no.
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..so whats the point in having your players play for the NT?
or do i want to raise that question :P

A player who played in the same position (ie, as a def) twice during the week will train better than one who played in only one game. Similarly, a player who played in an official match will train better than one who just played in a friendly. If a player played in two different positions during the week, the last match counts. The benefit of playing a player with the same match order twice is small - they will receive near full training by playing 1 match. If they play only in an international, they will receive around 33% of the normal training. Players do not receive training in extra time as they are too tired.

from the first line it seems that if they play 2 matches, they do get more trainin /full trianing i guess

I raise this question in brazilian forum too...

At least, one player in the NT Team, when you sell him, have a biggest value.

But, in the rules, don't talk anything about NT matches + Friendly games or League/Cup games.
My conclusion (and in the brazilian conference this have been confirmed by Ferdam, after talk with greg.) NT matches don't gave a more percentage of training.

...ok.. you seem to know what ur on about... which leads me back to my previous question

A lot of brazilian users ask the same of you. (and this is a big problem, a lot of users, put yours players in NTDB thinking that: 'My player will receive more training, and get a biggest value when I sell him' )

If you know that, a lot of users will stop to update your players. (in Brazil have a similar cases)

edit: concordance.
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You can see in the rules that it is specified the % of trainning when the player plays only for the NT. It is 33%. We know that if a player play only in oficial game(league or cup), during th week, he will get a better trainning then a player wich plays only the friendly match, but this difference isn't so big. 85~95% from 33% is a quite big difference. So, if the trainning of a player that plays just for the NT is only 33%, we couldn't even compare a NT match+oficial match or a NT match+friendly match with an oficial match+friendly match.

If the player who plays only the NT match receives less trainning then the guy that plays only an oficial or a friendly match, the player who plays the NT match+oficial or +friendly match can't get an trainning just like a player who plays the oficial+the friendly match, during the week. With that, we can conclude that there is no extra-trainning by playing NT matchs+oficial/friendly matchs.

Rules:
A player who played in the same position (ie, as a def) twice during the week will train better than one who played in only one game.

You:
there is no extra-trainning by playing NT matchs+oficial/friendly matchs.



i think there is contrast between the rules and you.

so how many training will he get? role'
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imho you're right

If they play only in an international, they will receive around 33% of the normal training.

that sentence tells that playing only the NT match is 33%, but it's doesn't tell that it's 0% additional training if the player is playing a second match in the same week.

greg has said:
- training effect is not linear
- 2 matches = 100%

for me the conclusion is: League + NT match = 100%, but not more (means not 90% + 33%, but 90+10 or 33+67, depending on the way you calculate)

It is an interpretation. If an oficial match has an effect of 85~95%, and the friendly has about 85~90%, and the NT has only 33%, a player that plays the a NT match + a friendly or an oficial match can't receive de same % of trainning a player that plays one oficial+one friendly, during the week.

I dont think i was clear, sorry for my english.

May be:


NT Game= 33%

Oficial game= 85~95%

Friendly= 85~90%.

Oficial+Friendly= 100% (hipotetic)

Ofitial+NT= can't have more trainning of the oficial+friendly, because Greg gave an biggest importance to the Oficial and the friendly match.

playing a NT match is than 33% percentage of training so it is ~35 minutes played on official mach, so if he plays on official mach 90 minutes and 90 minutes on NT mach he has played like if he had played 125 minutes in a official match this week. But it isn't the 100% of training because the things was talked about on this thread... he should need arround 65 minutes on friendly for get near the 100% of percentage of training