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This are the 7 seeded teams: (the number is their ranking at the moment)
32. Bosna i Hercegovina
33. Bulgaria
34. Australia
36. Scotland
37. Ireland
38. Canada
39. Latvija
The rest of the teams will be drawn randomly.
The draw will be on 20:00sk time today and you can all follow it here:
Mini WC Forum
Good luck everyone
:-)
32. Bosna i Hercegovina
33. Bulgaria
34. Australia
36. Scotland
37. Ireland
38. Canada
39. Latvija
The rest of the teams will be drawn randomly.
The draw will be on 20:00sk time today and you can all follow it here:
Mini WC Forum
Good luck everyone
:-)
Theodoros Pangalos, left, says Germany has no right to criticise Greece over its debt crisis when it's still suffering from Nazi occupation, while Angela Merkel has ignored appeals to help the debt-ridden nation[/i
Give us first the money that German nazi took us...And learn history first...and then speak...
[i]Germany took away the Greek gold that was at the Bank of Greece, they took away the Greek money and they never gave it back.
Nazi theft of Greek gold during the Second World War is to blame for the country's faltering finances, Athens claimed yesterday.It came as new protests about the economy turned violent.
Greece said the real culprit for its problems were the Nazis, whose occupation lasted from 1941 to 1945.
Albrecht Ritschl
guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 21 June 2011 16.36 BST
Article history
Germany owes Greece a debt
Germany's ducking of the war reparations issue makes its attitude to the current Greek debt crisis somewhat hypocritical
Albrecht Ritschl
Albrecht Ritschl
guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 21 June 2011 16.36 BST
Article history
The Germans are not amused these days. Look everywhere from tabloids to the blogosphere, and it seems that the public mood has reached boiling point. Loth to shoulder another national debt increase and finance another bailout, the Germans have started questioning everything from the wisdom of supporting Greece to the common euro currency, or indeed the merits of the European integration project altogether. This might be strange for a country that is nudging ever closer to full employment, and which is about to recapture its position as the world's leading exporter of manufactured goods from the Chinese. But the Germans say they've had enough: no more underwriting of European integration, no more paying for this and that, and certainly no more bailing out the Greeks.
What is truly strange, however, is the brevity of Germany's collective memory. For during much of the 20th century, the situation was radically different: after the first world war and again after the second world war, Germany was the world's largest debtor, and in both cases owed its economic recovery to large-scale debt relief.
Germany's interwar debt crisis started almost exactly 80 years ago, in the last days of June 1931. What had triggered it was Germany's aggressive borrowing in the late 1920s to pay reparations out of credit. A credit bubble resulted, and when it burst in 1931, it brought down reparations, the gold standard and, not least, Weimar democracy.
Having footed the resulting massive bill, after the second world war the Americans imposed the London debt agreement of 1953 on their allies, an exercise in debt forgiveness to Germany on the most generous terms. West Germany's economic miracle, the stability of the deutschmark and the favourable state of its public finances were all owed to this massive haircut. But it put Germany's creditors at a disadvantage, leaving it to them to cope with the financial aftermath of the German occupation.
Indeed, the London debt agreement deferred settlement of the reparations question – including the repayment of war debts and contributions imposed by Germany during the war – to a conference to be held after unification. This conference never took place: since 1990, the Germans have steadfastly refused to reopen this can of worms. Such compensation as has been paid, mostly to forced workers, was channelled through NGOs to avoid creating precedents. Only one country has challenged this openly and tried to obtain compensation in court: Greece.
It may or may not have been wise to put the issue of reparations and other unsettled claims on Germany to rest after 1990. Back then, the Germans argued that any plausible bill would exceed the country's resources, and that continued financial co-operation in Europe instead would be infinitely more preferable. They may have had a point. But now is the time for Germany to deliver on the promise, act wisely and keep the bull away from the china shop.
So mr JOKE-MAN Learn first how much money and ''gold'' stole Germany from Greece by the war..and how many killings..done...and how many money must give to Greece from the crimes of the past and then talk.and dont worry...the time that...Greeks will pay their debt with the money that Germany owes to Greece
And when the international courts take the decision by the law...we will see what country will be worst and worst at the economy..And when we put out our mineral wealth that is billions...we will see who will be the strong country!!!
Greece is richer country in world...at gold..,oil ,gus...and others...
Learn before talking...smart man!
(edited)
Give us first the money that German nazi took us...And learn history first...and then speak...
[i]Germany took away the Greek gold that was at the Bank of Greece, they took away the Greek money and they never gave it back.
Nazi theft of Greek gold during the Second World War is to blame for the country's faltering finances, Athens claimed yesterday.It came as new protests about the economy turned violent.
Greece said the real culprit for its problems were the Nazis, whose occupation lasted from 1941 to 1945.
Albrecht Ritschl
guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 21 June 2011 16.36 BST
Article history
Germany owes Greece a debt
Germany's ducking of the war reparations issue makes its attitude to the current Greek debt crisis somewhat hypocritical
Albrecht Ritschl
Albrecht Ritschl
guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 21 June 2011 16.36 BST
Article history
The Germans are not amused these days. Look everywhere from tabloids to the blogosphere, and it seems that the public mood has reached boiling point. Loth to shoulder another national debt increase and finance another bailout, the Germans have started questioning everything from the wisdom of supporting Greece to the common euro currency, or indeed the merits of the European integration project altogether. This might be strange for a country that is nudging ever closer to full employment, and which is about to recapture its position as the world's leading exporter of manufactured goods from the Chinese. But the Germans say they've had enough: no more underwriting of European integration, no more paying for this and that, and certainly no more bailing out the Greeks.
What is truly strange, however, is the brevity of Germany's collective memory. For during much of the 20th century, the situation was radically different: after the first world war and again after the second world war, Germany was the world's largest debtor, and in both cases owed its economic recovery to large-scale debt relief.
Germany's interwar debt crisis started almost exactly 80 years ago, in the last days of June 1931. What had triggered it was Germany's aggressive borrowing in the late 1920s to pay reparations out of credit. A credit bubble resulted, and when it burst in 1931, it brought down reparations, the gold standard and, not least, Weimar democracy.
Having footed the resulting massive bill, after the second world war the Americans imposed the London debt agreement of 1953 on their allies, an exercise in debt forgiveness to Germany on the most generous terms. West Germany's economic miracle, the stability of the deutschmark and the favourable state of its public finances were all owed to this massive haircut. But it put Germany's creditors at a disadvantage, leaving it to them to cope with the financial aftermath of the German occupation.
Indeed, the London debt agreement deferred settlement of the reparations question – including the repayment of war debts and contributions imposed by Germany during the war – to a conference to be held after unification. This conference never took place: since 1990, the Germans have steadfastly refused to reopen this can of worms. Such compensation as has been paid, mostly to forced workers, was channelled through NGOs to avoid creating precedents. Only one country has challenged this openly and tried to obtain compensation in court: Greece.
It may or may not have been wise to put the issue of reparations and other unsettled claims on Germany to rest after 1990. Back then, the Germans argued that any plausible bill would exceed the country's resources, and that continued financial co-operation in Europe instead would be infinitely more preferable. They may have had a point. But now is the time for Germany to deliver on the promise, act wisely and keep the bull away from the china shop.
So mr JOKE-MAN Learn first how much money and ''gold'' stole Germany from Greece by the war..and how many killings..done...and how many money must give to Greece from the crimes of the past and then talk.and dont worry...the time that...Greeks will pay their debt with the money that Germany owes to Greece
And when the international courts take the decision by the law...we will see what country will be worst and worst at the economy..And when we put out our mineral wealth that is billions...we will see who will be the strong country!!!
Greece is richer country in world...at gold..,oil ,gus...and others...
Learn before talking...smart man!
(edited)
Come on guys, keep it clean here, people want to follow the Mini WC here and might miss some posts because of that, so pleast do this conversation on your sk-mails (or other topics suited for it..)
Thanks
And for those who will miss it:
This are the 7 seeded teams: (the number is their ranking at the moment)
32. Bosna i Hercegovina
33. Bulgaria
34. Australia
36. Scotland
37. Ireland
38. Canada
39. Latvija
The rest of the teams will be drawn randomly.
The draw will be on 20:00sk time today and you can all follow it here:
Mini WC Forum
Good luck everyone
:-)
Thanks
And for those who will miss it:
This are the 7 seeded teams: (the number is their ranking at the moment)
32. Bosna i Hercegovina
33. Bulgaria
34. Australia
36. Scotland
37. Ireland
38. Canada
39. Latvija
The rest of the teams will be drawn randomly.
The draw will be on 20:00sk time today and you can all follow it here:
Mini WC Forum
Good luck everyone
:-)
Yeah, you're so damn rich and healthy.
Why does whole Europe give you money then, pray tell me...? You're bankrupt? Nah, impossible...
Why does whole Europe give you money then, pray tell me...? You're bankrupt? Nah, impossible...
Groups:
Group A
1. Ireland
2. India
3. Al maghrib
4. Daehan Minguk
Week 3 - 5.11.2011:
Ireland vs Daehan Minguk
India vs Al maghrib
Week 4 - 12.11.2011:
Ireland vs 3.
India vs Daehan Minguk
Week 5 - 19.11.2011:
Ireland vs India
Al maghrib vs Daehan Minguk
Group B
1. Latvija
2. Honduras
3. Andorra
4. Malta
Week 3 - 5.11.2011:
Latvija vs Malta
Honduras vs Andorra
Week 4 - 12.11.2011:
Latvija vs Andorra
Honduras vs Malta
Week 5 - 19.11.2011:
Latvija vs Honduras
Andorra vs Malta
Group C
1. Bulgaria
2. Cymru
3. Ísland
4. República Dominicana
Week 3 - 5.11.2011:
Bulgaria vs República Dominicana
Cymru vs Ísland
Week 4 - 12.11.2011:
Bulgaria vs Ísland
Cymru vs República Dominicana
Week 5 - 19.11.2011:
Bulgaria vs Cymru
Ísland vs República Dominicana
Group D
1. Australia
2. Hellas
3. Moldova
4. China
Week 3 - 5.11.2011:
Australia vs China
Hellas vs Moldova
Week 4 - 12.11.2011:
Australia vs Moldova
Hellas vs China
Week 5 - 19.11.2011:
Australia vs Hellas
Moldova vs China
Group E
1. Scotland
2. Slovenija
3. New Zealand
4. Kypros
Week 3 - 5.11.2011:
Scotland vs Kypros
Slovenija vs New Zealand
Week 4 - 12.11.2011:
Scotland vs New Zealand
Slovenija vs Kypros
Week 5 - 19.11.2011:
Scotland vs Slovenija
New Zealand vs Kypros
Group F
1. Bosna i Hercegovina
2. Shqiperia
3. Rossiya
4. Nippon
Week 3 - 5.11.2011:
Bosna i Hercegovina vs Nippon
Shqiperia vs Rossiya
Week 4 - 12.11.2011:
Bosna i Hercegovina vs Rossiya
Shqiperia vs Nippon
Week 5 - 19.11.2011:
Bosna i Hercegovina vs Shqiperia
Rossiya vs Nippon
Group G
1. Canada
2. Malaysia
3. Hong Kong
Week 3 - 5.11.2011:
Canada vs Hong Kong
Week 4 - 12.11.2011:
Canada vs Malaysia
Week 5 - 19.11.2011:
Malaysia vs Hong Kong
Please remember - NO CUP RULES!
Group A
1. Ireland
2. India
3. Al maghrib
4. Daehan Minguk
Week 3 - 5.11.2011:
Ireland vs Daehan Minguk
India vs Al maghrib
Week 4 - 12.11.2011:
Ireland vs 3.
India vs Daehan Minguk
Week 5 - 19.11.2011:
Ireland vs India
Al maghrib vs Daehan Minguk
Group B
1. Latvija
2. Honduras
3. Andorra
4. Malta
Week 3 - 5.11.2011:
Latvija vs Malta
Honduras vs Andorra
Week 4 - 12.11.2011:
Latvija vs Andorra
Honduras vs Malta
Week 5 - 19.11.2011:
Latvija vs Honduras
Andorra vs Malta
Group C
1. Bulgaria
2. Cymru
3. Ísland
4. República Dominicana
Week 3 - 5.11.2011:
Bulgaria vs República Dominicana
Cymru vs Ísland
Week 4 - 12.11.2011:
Bulgaria vs Ísland
Cymru vs República Dominicana
Week 5 - 19.11.2011:
Bulgaria vs Cymru
Ísland vs República Dominicana
Group D
1. Australia
2. Hellas
3. Moldova
4. China
Week 3 - 5.11.2011:
Australia vs China
Hellas vs Moldova
Week 4 - 12.11.2011:
Australia vs Moldova
Hellas vs China
Week 5 - 19.11.2011:
Australia vs Hellas
Moldova vs China
Group E
1. Scotland
2. Slovenija
3. New Zealand
4. Kypros
Week 3 - 5.11.2011:
Scotland vs Kypros
Slovenija vs New Zealand
Week 4 - 12.11.2011:
Scotland vs New Zealand
Slovenija vs Kypros
Week 5 - 19.11.2011:
Scotland vs Slovenija
New Zealand vs Kypros
Group F
1. Bosna i Hercegovina
2. Shqiperia
3. Rossiya
4. Nippon
Week 3 - 5.11.2011:
Bosna i Hercegovina vs Nippon
Shqiperia vs Rossiya
Week 4 - 12.11.2011:
Bosna i Hercegovina vs Rossiya
Shqiperia vs Nippon
Week 5 - 19.11.2011:
Bosna i Hercegovina vs Shqiperia
Rossiya vs Nippon
Group G
1. Canada
2. Malaysia
3. Hong Kong
Week 3 - 5.11.2011:
Canada vs Hong Kong
Week 4 - 12.11.2011:
Canada vs Malaysia
Week 5 - 19.11.2011:
Malaysia vs Hong Kong
Please remember - NO CUP RULES!
Yeah, it suck, at least you know you will be in the next round for sure..
:-)
:-)
in my group, three teams :((
this week is free for Malaysia :((
this week is free for Malaysia :((
You top the biggest bs I've read in the past days by so much it is unexplainable.
Congrats
LOL
Congrats
LOL
1. I have to agree with you about his post
2. please don't start this conflict again on this forum ;)
2. please don't start this conflict again on this forum ;)
Brutal group for Rep. Dominicana:(
I don't understand the caps:S
I don't understand the caps:S
Hong Kong arranged another friendly.
Looks like the group of 3 is down to 2.
*sigh*
Looks like the group of 3 is down to 2.
*sigh*
