Subject: Rules

I want my money back!

and basically they are allowing certain users to have more than one club, polish users of course

and not to forget they banned filjo from sokker under that accusation

1) if I play against Polska trained by Raul i should be sure that Raul put "physically" his hands on formation

So tactic helpers should be forbidden as well? Just listen to yourself syd...anyway I feel deeply offended and sad because you called me a cheater in the other topic - that wasn't nice. Especially as I was doing those things under agreement with admins so I HAVE NOT broken the rules. And as you can see both guy fink and loop agree that every log on someone's account doesn NOT mean total control.

I'm just curious about one thing. Rules were set in Poland, and as far as I know - other countries should use same rules. Now it appears Poland has different one's and you say "Polska cheat, borkos cheat, blablabla cheat cheat cheat". Now tell me - why? We made those rules, it is YOUR rules that aren't normal, not ours.

Please don't go into that "Polish users get special treatment"-discussion. I don't think it is fair towards those users, and this topic will (and should be) closed. This is not a clear case of having multiple accounts (a topic where the rules are very clear). This is a grey area that needs to be clarified - preferably without pointing fingers at those who (for all we know) have acted in good faith.

Let's look ahead and say what we would like to see implemented instead :-)

and what are the proofs of not having multiple accounts, just sitting multiple clubs???

they asked passports numbers from filjo, are those users going to have some treatment?

filjo never made any transfers between clubs he was sitting for his friends, and even payed plus for all of them...

Ok sorry, obviously I don't know enough about that case. I didn't follow what happened to filjo, so I can only go by what you tell me...

Ok sorry, obviously I don't know enough about that case. I didn't follow what happened to filjo, so I can only go by what you tell me...

It was big deal on sokker than (for those that don't know, filjo is creator of Apollo, first manager assistant program for sokker). When they banned him from sokker, they specifically said to Croatian community that any control of more than one club is not allowed, not even partial or periodic... Well where is staff now with the answer?

There wasn't transfers between clubs, and filjo shoved passports for both of them, so maybe there was something else that we all don't know, and maybe rules are not same for everyone, but I want one thing - that the rules are simple to understand and same for everyone

And even payed plus for clubs, supporting sokker servers, not wasting resources...

Well if someone logs at multiple accounts VERY often, and what's more buys plus for all accounts - that IS suspicious. And admins can see from where and when do you log.

As for, as I called them, small favours - you log just once, or maybe twice in 2 weeks and then no logs till next holidays or so. It's totally different than as you've called it "sitting multiple clubs". Don't you see the difference? I do.

And how often you can log, is specified by how good friend with staff you are? Or are there any kind of rules?

And in filjo case, they said NO loging is allowed...
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You've said he was sitting on multiple accounts. Now there are few questions:

1)Was he logging on all the accounts all the time?
2)Did he asked admins whether he can do it before logging in?
3)How many accounts did he continuously logged into?
4)How often there were log ins from other ip than his?

as far as it's written here, the admins who banned filjo are just ****** (put in the words you want).
But maybe there is something more that we don't know.

So tactic helpers should be forbidden as well?

There are hundreds of way to help a player with tactics which not involve enter in his team....
For the second part of your speech I'm quite agree with you instead...

filjo had the total control of all his teams, meaning he could for example use different tactics and could learn from all of them. He also used the teams on the transfermarket. But this is an old case which is closed. And i am sure that staff did the right thing there.

Imho it is different when you log in as a vacational assistant for example to set tactics or to substitute players. If it should be allowed, i dont know, but for sure you should not be banned from the game.

anyway I feel deeply offended and sad because you called me a cheater in the other topic
No comment. Because i dont want ban!