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Subject: World Cup Qualifying

2009-03-18 23:40:15
I believe that if someone thinks, under any circumstances, that everything happened because he/she was unlucky... he/she is in trouble.
Even if you win, you have things to improve. For bigger countries (those that probably qualify just for being in a poll) the qualification is the time for improvement. If your team shoots 16 times and didn't score or made only one you should think about what happened, trying to either create 20 shoots next time or manage to "give" your players better chances.
If the manager thinks that was only bad luck, he/she won't change anything, hoping that next time luck will be on his/her side. That is the worst mistake that someone can do, either in a game or life.
2009-03-19 00:45:02
Well then, give me your opinion.

Two games:
game 1
game 2

Game 1: 4:0, dozens of great situations, 31:2 in shots, some of the unfinished extremely great.
Game 2: 6:0, though the amount of goals scored was quite lucky, 6 out of 14, with 2 long shots.

Now tell me, in your opinion I did better in game nr. ?
2009-03-19 01:39:09
You are trying to make an analogy with a result that never happened.... the "if we have scored" result never happened so your analogy is invalid.

Anyway... your best performance of both was the second one...

In Football, the best one is the one who scores more goals ;)
2009-03-19 01:42:33
Well I think the first one was much better, everything in tactic worked perfectly, the team made an astounding amount of great scoring situatios, but had bad luck with finishing.

Come on - when there are 2 strikers going against one keeper, he saves first shot, 2nd shot and then the striker fails to score against an empty goal, then how do you call it? Result of tactical effort and hard work of defending team, or just massive bad luck of the attacking team? I call it a bad luck
2009-03-19 03:33:56
Uruguay was champion in 1950 and Germany in 1954, and also in 1974... but Brasil in 1950, Hungary in 1954 and Netherlands in 1974 played a more offensive and beautiful football. Anyway, the champions showed their tactical approach was more effective ... and in football, between effectiveness and beauty, I choose the first one.
2009-03-19 03:46:04
ah, another chelsea fan ;P
2009-03-19 03:52:05
What? I mean i'm assuming you're talking about the real world cup. Uruguay were champions in 1930 and 1950. They were 4th in 54 and 70
2009-03-19 04:07:32
I said Uruguay in 1950, Germany in 1954 and 1974... and also mentioned the runners-up in order: Brasil, Hungary and Netherlands.
2009-03-19 04:40:47
I think, Uruguay haves a good coach and good tactic... isn´t a "lucky situation" or other

Uruguay defeated to Lietuva (2-1)
Uruguay draw with France (1-1)
Uruguay U21 draw with Polska U21 (0-0)
Uruguay defeated to Australia, 2 seasons ago (3-2)

all matchs, in the last 3 seasons, with Mr.200 as coach...and with different engines, different tactics, differents styles,etc... except, the same coach

it´s not a "lucky" situation, 4 matchs and more, it´s more a tendency, that singular situations.
in every match with a excellent contender,Uruguay in every case (without exception), should be defeated ("logical thinking")

all argument of "lucky", is wrong... Sokker is a "simple" engine, with many numbers, many situations, many mathematics operations... certainly, a match is only a sample of this engine

maybe, the operations haves explication, but our eyes, don´t see the answer of many questions.

this is sokker, for good, or for bad...

thanks to god, it´s not HT
2009-03-19 15:30:26
A few numbers of this qualifiying:

..................shots........goals.......average
Lietuva........139...........51...........0.37
France.........107...........43...........0.40
Uruguay........53...........25...........0.47
Shqipëria.......21............3............0.14
Hayastan.......38............3............0.08
El Salvador......1............1............1

This are only partial numbers... more games to come. Lietuva played twice with El Salvador.
2009-03-19 16:00:56
Romania - 191 shots - 55 goals - 0.29
2009-03-19 23:21:07
....................shots received......goals conceded........average
Lietuva.................10..........................3...................0.3
France..................16..........................3...................0.1875
Uruguay................61..........................8...................0.131147541
Shqipëria..............63.........................17..................0.26984127
Hayastan...............99.........................28.................0.282828283
El Salvador..........209.........................67.................0.320574163

Uruguay is the team with the best average shots/goals (if we don't count the 100% of El Salvador) and the team with best average shots received/goals conceded.
The numbers don't lie... we have been lucky 6 games in a row... :P
2009-03-20 10:42:30
sokker is random

last World Cup too...

:D
2009-03-20 10:46:49
seriously...

luck or not this is a game and sometimes David could beat Golia even if he has a poor weapon and is able to use it once in the fight

i think that when a big team loses against a weaker team there's always something to repair in the big team's organization
2009-03-20 10:57:26
Maybe often, but not always. Imagine you have 20 shots, good one's, and your opponent has one or even zero. And the results is 1:0 for your opponent. Not much to do....
2009-03-20 11:01:42
this is good example: click

:D