Subject: Bankruptcy - need changes??

Yes, for this the automatic messaging system would be the solution, so you would get an automatic PM in sokker as soon as your finances drop to far with the informations of what is going to happen. Still I think 24 hours just are too harsh and it is not in any interest for sokker to lose managers just because such a harsh rule. Bankrupt teams are not cheaters, so they should also be treated better and I see NO REASON not to increase the time those guys have to fix their finances. That's why my first proposition was 4 days.

hmm, but you ale were also able to sack your coaches.

it's very expensive but should make your club resistant for no bringing in listed player...

what i want to say is that there should be somewhere a point without possibility of coming back and whereever it would be there always will be a risk of histories like r00zg4's

I agree that there is always a point of no return, but you do not have to make it so strict that many users that are interested in the game cannot come back just because the rules are to strict.
Real life example: I think it is good to make a no littering rule, but if someone that does throw away a little paper or a cigarrette has to pay 100 Euro because of that, then I think it goes too far. I think with this rule it is exactly like this. 24 hours is very strict (well ok, it is a polska game :P) and there would be no problem to just expand it and it would have no negative konsequences for Sokker in it (it does not even make sense, because the club is only bankrupt after two week in bankruptcy, but you can only do something 24 hours of that?), only positives because:
- users that cannot stay online after that login (for example if logging in during work) have the possibilty to inform themselves about what bankrupcy means and how long he has the time to solve the problem (not everyone knows rules by heart and has the time to search and read that RIGHT AFTER that specific login where the 24 hours timer starts. They can ask in forums and do get an answer they can read before it is too late
- users can sell players AND send them away. The minimum for this are two days after reaching bankruptcy, so it would be fair to make the border with 3-4 days after the first login after reaching bankruptcy.

So why not?

there are no important contraarguments for that

it would just take this point of no return farther.

now it is somewhere before reaching -500 000 $ account balance. with your idea it would be somewhere after this moment.

and it would follow current rules more preciselly

maybe an email sent to you and a sk mail when you hit -400k, -450k and -500k..?

if you want to come back that would be a wakeup call... if not it would just be ignored... email is the best way to go beceause most people check email fairly regularly...

well...

something had to been changed because r00zg4 is back.
i hope it's a first case of new standard, not just an incidental procedure...
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something had to been changed because r00zg4 is back

Well, that's a special case I think.
So we can keep the rules as they are with a special admin-solution, whenever something like you described in the firts post happens.

And I think, it's ok that r00zg4 is back.

And I think, it's ok that r00zg4 is back. <- then probably you are in the minority. In Poland we are awaiting a thunderstorm because of that :P
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???

Is is his fault if someone buys a player and doesn't take him to his team?

Can hardly believe that Polish people think that's fair...

you could easily put a player out of sokker, when he sells his player after having less then 500 000 $ on the account.

Is is his fault if someone buys a player and doesn't take him to his team?

doesnt matter this could happened to everyone but we are angry that they change rules in this moment only to get him out form bankroupt. they change everything for 1 user. this is not fair because rules are the same 4 everyone and now they changed them ;/


Probably today on start page we will see:

Bankruptcy
This period is since today morning changed to 3 days.

r00zg4 last day for changes to go out from bankupt was 31.05

and this was his last log:

89.174.*.* 2009-05-31 09:56:41

after 14 days he should be deleted because nothing was changed in his team and how it is possible that yesterday (one day before account delete) he could log in? :> Bankroupt is still on his club page so he couldnt do this.

New (not official) rules shouldnt be active for his person only for users who get bankroput after thet they give us official message on start page

Shouldn't they learn from the mistakes? If there's a clear precedent that shows there's something wrong with the rules should devs wait that the same happiens 20 times more before they change anything? This was a clear problem with the rules and imo. the sooner it's fixed the better.

I agree that it would be better to make a general rule for bankruptcy before applying it to anyone but I don't know the reasons for making this procedure in this order. I still think this was very good decision.

Well, I'm quite sure, that anyone who faces the same problem (player wasn't taken after the bid) and contacts the admin, will get a second chance.

You can't put any special case that rarely happens in the rules...

and imo. the sooner it's fixed the better.


yes I agree but the problem is that they do this in this time only for resque him and its not fair for users who where in the same situations before and lost teams.


@baslx

Well, I'm quite sure, that anyone who faces the same problem (player wasn't taken after the bid) and contacts the admin, will get a second chance.

I'm not sure of this ;)
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Would you think the same if this happened to you?
It could have happened to anyone.
It is a good sign for us that the staff cares about special situations that have gone wrong.
Some people should grow up.

its r00zg4 fault.

he should put on TL more players he knew what was his situation. I know - player wasnt taken after end of bid but if the price wasnt enough for gettin out from bankrupt what then? Greg write to him: "Listen r00zg4 price fro this player wasnt enough so please log in and put more players on TL" ? :>

but if the price wasnt enough for gettin out from bankrupt what then?

Then it's his fault. No question about that...

that's a different situation. Then he speculated wrongly.