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Subject: Supporters Mood Update
Let see what the ppl thinks. Before the vote, please add your comment.
Voting ends 28.06.2009 at sokker time 00:00
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Voting ends 28.06.2009 at sokker time 00:00
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hmmm not happy cuz i lost so many sups this season that i'm unhappy
won all league games, but it's just not good enough for SK... :(
won all league games, but it's just not good enough for SK... :(
Currently we have only to complaints against the system.
Look at the vote shows.
Look at the vote shows.
i chose I am pleased with the amendments. new setpoint of moods balance is correct imo.
however i'm dissapointed that it wasn't implemented gradually. now it's too harsh for too many teams
however i'm dissapointed that it wasn't implemented gradually. now it's too harsh for too many teams
I am pleased with the amendments. Because we need change`s
this system punishes old users, who already have high supporter numbers.
there are a few reasons.
in country cup you must face opponents who are 1/3 or 1/2 of your rating. so even if you win with 25-0 you cannot satisfy your supporters because of the funny downfall in calculations. results more than 8 goals difference count same as 8-0. but the gap between ratings is incredibly high.
in your league things are going even more funnier. since your supporter level sucks, you have to win all your matches, but even in this case you cannot rise your supporter level more than 2 levels, while you are going down with 2-3 levels when you play in cup. So anyway, the old teams will suffer even more.
for the new teams this is good adjustment - reason :)) : even when losing with 25-0 they get new supporters, and their supporter mood goes up. This is shame. in real life there are no happy supporters if their team loses even with 8-0. doesn't matter with whom you played.
i lost about 65-70 supporters since the beginning of this season. my income from sponsor went down and i am getting less money than a second league team by the moment, and even 3 league leaders are getting almost as much as my sponsors income now :). is it possible for me to be satisfied. a 3rd league team cannot face my weekly expenses, there are old teams who are going to bankrupt if they don't sell their players.
Those ratings and supporter levels stink terribly, but this season we are going to play with those rules, and hopefully next season something will change.
One more thing, if everything is calculated with equal effect on the supporters mood, then the A or B team playing against opponent must be included in the calculations, because the difference between my A team and my B teams is as big as at least 2 divisions.
Nothing is going to change my mind about the system at the moment. even wining 5 matches in a row is not a reason for my supporters to stop leaving the club... What a perfect reflection of the real world ;)
there are a few reasons.
in country cup you must face opponents who are 1/3 or 1/2 of your rating. so even if you win with 25-0 you cannot satisfy your supporters because of the funny downfall in calculations. results more than 8 goals difference count same as 8-0. but the gap between ratings is incredibly high.
in your league things are going even more funnier. since your supporter level sucks, you have to win all your matches, but even in this case you cannot rise your supporter level more than 2 levels, while you are going down with 2-3 levels when you play in cup. So anyway, the old teams will suffer even more.
for the new teams this is good adjustment - reason :)) : even when losing with 25-0 they get new supporters, and their supporter mood goes up. This is shame. in real life there are no happy supporters if their team loses even with 8-0. doesn't matter with whom you played.
i lost about 65-70 supporters since the beginning of this season. my income from sponsor went down and i am getting less money than a second league team by the moment, and even 3 league leaders are getting almost as much as my sponsors income now :). is it possible for me to be satisfied. a 3rd league team cannot face my weekly expenses, there are old teams who are going to bankrupt if they don't sell their players.
Those ratings and supporter levels stink terribly, but this season we are going to play with those rules, and hopefully next season something will change.
One more thing, if everything is calculated with equal effect on the supporters mood, then the A or B team playing against opponent must be included in the calculations, because the difference between my A team and my B teams is as big as at least 2 divisions.
Nothing is going to change my mind about the system at the moment. even wining 5 matches in a row is not a reason for my supporters to stop leaving the club... What a perfect reflection of the real world ;)
I think it is too harsh, although the change is very good for my club. I have a small group of fans, and I have just promoted. My fans stay happy, even after 4 consecutive (small) losses.
But winning or losing in this league hardly makes any difference. The effect could be a bit less drastic IMHO.
I think that it's right not gaining supporters mood levels if i win with a weaker team, but it's really unfair to lose them if i win only for 2-0. I started my season with mood at max level, and now that i made 11 points in a very difficult league i have mood at the last level and all because of short wins in national cup. i lost sponsor money, supporters and ticket income. unbelieveble.
I am pleased with the amendments
25% (11)
I am not satisfied with the amendments
75% (33)
significant ...
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25% (11)
I am not satisfied with the amendments
75% (33)
significant ...
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to all: but it is not logical that you are sitting in a weak league and expect that supporters would be happy
so it's logic for you that you're on the last place in a league that's too strong for you and you're sups are happy...
so it's logic for you that if you're on the first place in a weaker league and the sups are unhappy and leaving?
i really don't get your reasoning...
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so it's logic for you that if you're on the first place in a weaker league and the sups are unhappy and leaving?
i really don't get your reasoning...
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so it's logic for you that you're on the last place in a league that's too strong for you and you're sups are happy...
LOL my sups is unhappy.
LOL my sups is unhappy.
ok then it's logical i thought your sups were happy because you play in a league that's to good for you
If you have the opportunity to rise higher league then please do so, however, do not lose to the win supporters of a weak league. That`s not working any more