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Subject: Is Sokker dying?

2009-11-07 17:13:29
Yeah, I could appreciate the sarcasm at first, but had to correct stuff.

Seriously though, how did you find out so fast that langhe is a female god with no friends? Took me decades..
2009-11-07 17:18:46
well, there is this distinct bitchiness in the air...
and I'm not talking about langhe...
2009-11-07 17:34:45
Yeah, I always figured the smell was coming from myself.
2009-11-07 17:40:27
lol

at the previous, not the bitchy comments :s
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2009-11-07 18:55:25
2/ Match engine is not modified: why should it be modified. I think quite a lot of peopla are satisfied or even happy with current one.


I'm not :P It's been worse, but it can still be better, so why shouldn't it? BUt most important: they have shown me better. For a cup of weeks, we had a better engine, which was then withdrawn.
And you know how it is: once you know what its out there, you just can't settle for anything below it... :P
2009-11-07 21:43:43
are you talking about those many passes, combinatory game etc.?

it was very enjoining for me too but it propably would made defensive tactics stronger than now and because of that it wouldn't be good...

but i've heard some gossips about other new features in ME and i'm very curious about them :>
2009-11-07 21:53:57
Share your wisdom please ;)
2009-11-07 21:54:05
Passing game must be introduced!

It is very annoying with these 5 defenders standing like a wall. They must be more involved in attacking part of the game.
2009-11-07 21:59:39
it's not a wisdom at all and i don't want to risk my reputation if they wouldn't be introduced :)

@majti_orion
yeh, i wish to see it again too, but only if 4 defenders would be enough to keep balance between attacking and defending...
2009-11-07 22:00:24
maybe through pm then ;)
2009-11-08 00:05:58
it was very enjoining for me too but it propably would made defensive tactics stronger than now and because of that it wouldn't be good...



That was said a lot at the time, but I never agreed to that quick conclusion. Poeple kept using the same defensive tactics as before, and many 0-0 or 1-0 happened, but they never really thought about new tactics to exploit the cominatory game. With constructive play, empty middlefields are fertile ground to pass the ball around, force defenders to come out, and create spaces, so people would in fact need less defenders and more mids. On the contrary, current ME makes so few passes between mids, and so many long balls, than you can play with 1 mid and nothing happens, it is all about putting 7 defenders to block thtough balls, and putting quick forwards to see if you can still get some chances.
2009-11-08 10:41:24
yeah, that would actually suit my passing game, holding possession in the midfield and getting the through balls. hopefully it will balance out the advantage of wingers and CMs :)

ps look at my tactic to understand more about what im talking about ;)
2009-11-08 11:03:49
rezerwacja tutek
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2009-11-08 11:16:02
I haven't read the whole thread, only about the first 8 pages.

Anyway, my opinion about all this:
sokker is not dying. It's not improving a lot, but it's far away from dying.

I just want to pick up all the brilliant aspects of this game:
- the youth school system. Even though there is a lot of random in it and even though I've never had a great pull in all my years (great pull = worth of the player over 937 500 $ and talented), I think it's very good. The different talents, the different skills etc.
- the training system: I really like the training in here! The general training, the talent-thing, the fact that young trainees train faster, low-level training is faster and you can even train old ones.
- The community: I can mainly only talk about the Swiss community, but also a bit about the Austrian and German. In Switzerland the community is really great, we know each other in the forum, there are no trolls and no users who only wanna get attention.
- FInally of course the match engine: It's really great. All in all the match engine to me is brilliant. Of course, there are several small mistakes (keeper going always to where he caught the ball at goal kicks, not enough contitional orders etc.), but the random factor is quite okey, even though I often complain when not winning the match I've played better :-)
But the midfielders, the defenders, the strikers, they all behave quite good and of course, you can do such a lot of things with the tactic. Still I don't believe you can only win with 5 defenders on the toplevel, it just depends on where you place your defenders and def. MIDs, but anyway, that's another thing.


So I must say, I'm really motivated to play this game, to see my trainees improve, to see their talent (or their anti-talent^^), to see my players running exactly the way I made the tactic and finally to discuss with other users, mainly in the Swiss forum.



So: sokker is imho not dying, but not improving a lot either.

The only thing that I really don't like here is the communication between admins/mods/developpers and "normal users". All the ideas, all the suggestions, all the complaints are often not answered by anyone of these "officials". This is the only really negative point here, but I guess we will have to live with that :-/

Great example of today:
transfer III became Transfer STars and is now (I guess so) standard to every new user.
But no information about that... :-/
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2009-11-08 12:31:33
For me, the best thing about sokker is the community. I've never played any game that has such a good community as sokker. And the great community do create a lot of motivation to keep on playing.