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Subject: Is Sokker dying?

2009-11-09 20:32:50
You wanted logical arguments? I will use yours. Then you can fulfill your previous reply :-)

Your words:
and win or loss for Real against some crappy team is not even worth to discuss about, win - normal, anything else - total screw up...

panchoahead words:
If you think its almost perfect system, one that takes away fans to a team that is in the first place of its league since the beginning of the season, that wins 21-0 against a better ranked team, then you are nuts.

your reply to panchoahead
i do, new fans system is perfect... u have to be brainless to expect your fan nuber to grow endlessly.... fans can redistribute, but not grow in absolute numbers...

new fan system is perfect.


Sum up:
You say: win = normal
You say: win 21-0 - drop of mood (fans) - normal

If you think thats your brain works normal then.... :-)

So now fullfil :-).
2009-11-09 20:35:32
i dont know where your 140 comes from but try to follow what im trying to say

win - normal (0)
no star players on the field - angry fans (-1)

0-1<0 isnt it?
2009-11-09 20:35:51
2009-11-09 20:38:49
no star players on the field - angry fans (-1)

In which club on earth fans expect that the manager always plays with the starting 11??
2009-11-09 20:41:36
it was a simple assumption that fans do want you to play your best team squad...
2009-11-09 20:43:13
mood is just a tool to control the number...

Not really, that's only part of the story. Mood is also crucial for attendance. If mood drops, less people come to your stadium. Morover, less people goes to your opponent's stadium when you play away.
You can claim that the fanbase of reaaaally big clubs do not increase any more, no matter what, but you can't claim that, when they are leading the championship, they play in half-empty stadiums. Specially if, as you say, they don't know in advance that you are fielding subs and expect to see all the stars in the field.
2009-11-09 20:43:26
A simple assumption based on reality? or a simple assumption based on what you think?
2009-11-09 20:44:49
no theory comes without simplyfying assumptions, and this one feasible, for the reasons ive stated couple of posts ago...
2009-11-09 20:46:15
changes was made too late unfortunately and some managers built huge stadiums...

this delay is the biggest failure of this system...
2009-11-09 20:47:08
2009-11-09 20:47:48
i still lead you...
2009-11-09 20:47:57
True, simplifying the real model is the base of every system, but when you assume way too much you end up with simplistic models that don´t fit the real system that are trying to model.

Assuming that the fans always wants to see the starting 11, is contradictory in many points compared to reality, an assumption that at one point is hurting the overall system that it is actually pretty accurate.
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2009-11-09 20:52:23
suporters wnats to see result similar or higher to avarage result between teams like yours and your opponent, including B-squads.

if you get worse results they going upset.

edit: no matter of ranking what many thinks...
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2009-11-09 20:56:31
Mmmm... but very few people has huge stadiums, most "top teams" are in the range 40k-60k.

Anyway, I never thought about it, but if you tell me that stadiums/attendance can't grow that much, that's really bad news for me, becasue I always encourage income related to achievements (you win, you gett attendance, you get money) than to becoming a player factory in the 5th divisions, with tons of millions and zero gold trophies :P
2009-11-09 20:58:25
lol :-) you can make me laugh.

youre stating always something else ;-).

there no need to point it out everyone but you sees it ;-).

So i am done with you ;-).
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2009-11-09 21:01:16
i understands u not english bad