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Subject: Is Sokker dying?

2009-10-29 13:20:07
no, here used 3D models, I sure in this.

for example the ball speed is a vector (x,y,h),
2009-10-29 13:28:22
huh I thought so, thanks dude, some kid´os here were trying to mess with my brain..


loop and reddevil, go to school:)
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2009-10-29 14:49:12
I voted yes.

But I don't totally agree with the reasons wich Hells said, but some of them are quite true. I think the main reason is that there aren't any minor changes, and generally, the new things aren't happening quickly enough.

Yes, its a great advantage that sokker has live matches, but we've had this for ages. It took a long time to persuade Devs to do U21 NT, and there are loads of things, what most people would like, but nobody listens to them, or if yes, then nothing happens. This makes the game much less attractive for users, and unfortunatelly experienced users do quit, or become very inactive.

And for example in Hungary there has been a boost in the number of users very recently (from 1000 to 1500), but on forums this just means more litter comments, and out of this 500 users I don't think that more than 10-20% will really be active on sokker, and a bigger number will be just stupid, making forums uninjoyable for users like me, or even more experienced users.

I think sokker still has the possibility to stop dying, but it would need some changes, and mainly in the staff, because the main problem is, I think, that sokker has become very inflexible.
2009-10-29 16:00:58
I'm playing sokker for myself; not for others. So I honestly don't care if experienced managers quit or devs are inactive because they do not benefit my team at all, so why would I bother then?
The only thing that bothers me atm is the new supportermood thingy; that really sux hard! But hey, that doesn't stop me from playing!

If sokker is dying in your eyes then you should find some new personal challenges: building up a new team starting with 17y olds, or reaching new goals by promoting, ec...

Btw, I never heard Hells complaining when he was Hellsangel. I guess it's not so fun playing in last division instead of playing in first class and several NT teams. That's my opinion tho'

Greetings,
Lammes (aka piada)
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2009-10-29 16:02:00
+1
2009-10-29 21:04:47
i woted yes

i decided for yes because there are possible no inovations...for example to change the right bar (click here for more info), or other aspects and inovations that are daily mentioned in bugs/ideas forum. some of them are really good but they are simply don't find the place in the game ( thas's not only the devs fold...it's our/users fold, i see many people complaining how bored they are now and how sokker needs inovations, but when you look in topics on bugs/ideas forum you se he same people stopping the inovations with the ''-1/no use'' comments!).
it'd really be nice to bring some fresh wind in this game

also one point...when i'm looking the other concurent manager games, the countries have all their own MOD (no mather if big or small)...not so in sokker. the problem is how can someone that doesn't speak your language have the control ower your countries forum? (they don't even understand that they must close a topic) ==> that means that small countries count nothing...they are not important for sokker or what? that's the big problem in sokker to...when we try to make sokker bigger and better they must start to support small countries...you can't fill water into a full glass (it's hard to get more and more users into a country like poland :)

that are 2 aspects of the game that are in my opinion braking the games evolution :I
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2009-10-29 21:33:57
voted no, because i think Sokker is much better and far more complex than other online manager games... maybe it isn't so interesting for new managers because of that, but for me it's better than any other game i tried to play.
people are leaving because they think it's boring? they are playing it for 2-3 years! of course they think so... but people who say "it's not fun because I'm losing all the time!", or say "Hattrick (for example) is better", are playing it even without reading the rules! they don't know how to make tactic, want results without training players at the beginning and then they lost their patience when they need to train stamina and/or pace for season or two. =)
for me that is the challenge... when you need to ask yourself how your team will be looking after three or four seasons of training, not after 3-4 days. I think they are bored also because they are playing xM200x, where you can repeat match X many times and get the desired result.
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2009-10-29 21:38:20
Totally disagree with your second paragraph.
There's no need for a mod in every country! I think the goal should be to have just as many mod as necessary to keep all the forums clean. I've been active in some smaller forums and I don't see a reason why there should be a mod for every single country.

Moreover, speaking of new created countries. Who would you name mod? The first user who's applying? Users from these countries simply don't have the knowledge of the game (yet) and surely not everyone is fitting for a mod job. And I strongly doubt that having a mod improves the userbase of a respective country.
A moderator is - as far as I know - not responsible to advertise and to improve the userbase of a country, I think that's the promotors job - or the whole communities.

So imo it wouldn't be a good idea to mix up things and to add even more officials even though they're not needed.
2009-10-29 21:40:28
totally agree with that... ;)
2009-10-29 21:56:43
Voted no. I still think this is a fantastic game, I`ve never been so fascinated by other online games. Why would we need changes all the time? I just think the ME could do with a little tweak & the supporter system irritates a lot of people and should be tuned as well.

The name of the game is the thing slowing increasing users, it`s a ridicolous name for a magical game ;-)

Here in Norway sokker means "socks" & when trying to "push" this game to fellow HT players & online gamers they laugh their asses of by the name.
2009-10-29 22:18:05
to be honest, im not interested in matches for a long time now... only my trainees, and forums.... still kinda adicted...
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2009-10-30 14:42:41
The name of the game is the thing slowing increasing users, it`s a ridicolous name for a magical game ;-)

Here in Norway sokker means "socks" & when trying to "push" this game to fellow HT players & online gamers they laugh their asses of by the name.


Yes, the current name is a bit wierd:)
Isnt sokker that game, what ppl play in USA? or am I wrong?
But have you any other better options for the name?
2009-10-30 14:51:46
It isn't dying, but it is stagnant. I'm voting no, though.
2009-10-30 14:59:42
peaple un US play soccer. I don´t know if the word sokker even exists in any language.. :)
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2009-10-30 15:10:07
peaple un US play soccer. I don´t know if the word sokker even exists in any language.. :)

Ok, my bad then:)
2009-10-30 17:18:53
sokker belgium is dying :(
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