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Irony is not the best part of you Charles... What i mean is that greg only cares how much money he could get from this game... he took much time to developp a simulator totally useless... He found about 10 nice users to give them 1y of free plus for making ads about the game in the net... Imagine !!! Only a dozen of users interested in ?? We are a certain number of users here taking time to discuss about problems encountered... And the only answer we have : tell me the minute and the match fo each problem whereas it is a whole problem involved all along the match...

And to finish about the ironic part is that i introduce you in this joke only because you're a believer... No a fanatic completely blind towards your god, greg... He will do only what He wants to get more money possible without hearing anyone...

Hey, with all due respect. I have been one of the users that have posted the most lately about ME problems.

But I have to be fair as well. And I will start with an "I think" so no one starts arguing that I speak for everyone again and lose track of the real discussion.

I think, that is not a "90 minute" problem. There are some good things about this new ME. I see different plays that the ME was not offering before. More creative passing and different heading options (some head directly to the ground, some very high.... etc... I haven't seen that many "good" headers.. that is true). There is a little more "collective" game going on then just some isolated long passings.

Having said that... there is some fine tuning to do to the ME. And again... we got a topic named "ME Errors" in the Bug/Idea forum where we can list them and I can thus re edit the first post on that topic which has been lately been sent to the devs to review... wether they will actually do those changes... that is another story. But at least we are doing something.

I absolutely hate the way strikers behave in new ME - including running, sprints, dribbling and finishing. It's really sad because as old-time striker trainer, I remember what pleasure I had after every pace/tech pop of my trainees because I was able to see the difference in the way they played.

Now I don't think I can distinguish between brilliant and divine paced striker, same with technique...

First of all, no I don't do this for greg, I do what I do because I like Sokker and I want Sokker to become better. I also have asked for changes a long time and finally it happened. Now it must be tweaked and for this the Sokker community is needed. Apparently a lot has to be changed as so many managers have something to say about the mistakes in the new ME, but how strange is it that no posts are done in the topic :/

And second, you call it 'discussing' what many managers do in this topic, I call most of the post complaining or even whining without any willingness to invest even a bit of their time to do something for real to make the ME better. Apparently it's not that important at all as almost no one is willing to spend some time but rather use this time to post only complains (which also takes time to do).

There are just a few staff members left who are willing to read and write in these kind of topics, but if they stop doing this the chance to get things better will also die with their willingness to listen to you guys! You all can make the decission what you guys want ....

And second, you call it 'discussing' what many managers do in this topic, I call most of the post complaining or even whining without any willingness to invest even a bit of their time to do something for real to make the ME better. Apparently it's not that important at all as almost no one is willing to spend some time but rather use this time to post only complains (which also takes time to do).
We help... We told about problems... We don't do more than this... I already pay to play, i'm not here to help one person only... to developp the game... Feel free to put our demands in the test server... If you don't do this for us, we will be still here to discuss and focus on problems about the ME.
And please stop complaining and whining about users who are here to explain how the ME is not working fine...

We help... We told about problems...

Again, the question is simple, be more specific what goes wrong. That's what greg is asking for and when this info if posted I can show it to the DEVs. I can't do anything for anyone without this info, it's up to the managers to provide me and other helpfull staff members with this info, if not, we can't do anything to get the DEVs change the ME. I think I have mentioned this more then enough times by now, I'm not going to repeat myself over and over again :/

And you are not helping one person to develope a game, you can help yourself to get a better ME. But you understand this, I don't believe you don't.

And please stop complaining and whining about users who are here to explain how the ME is not working fine...

I'm asking for usefull info .... if you think that's the same as complaining, fine, go ahead, but I know you see the difference.

I'm wondering now why you behave like this the way you do right now ......... I expect these kind of comments of some in this topic as they always do that, but not of some others.

Question:

It's a bug if the defenders hit the ball with there head from there penalty aria until the middle of the field and some stupid striker can't hit the post from 2m with there head ??????????????

Also i consider bug this stupid thing with "intelligent" defender, who covers the striker(s).. why the f... we boder to set the strikers where are no defenders ??????

From my part greg can't put this new ME into his ... i let you guys guess the word:)

My last post here, because is for nothing, in the end greg will do what he wants.

Respect for all user and DON'T BUY PLUS ANYMORE !!! I KNOW I WILL NOT PAY FOR SOMETHING THIS SHITTY AND WHICH I DON'T PLAY WITH PLEASURE !!!


ps: charles- stop what are you doing, sometimes you are just lame whit your way of defending sokker, EXCUSE ME, GREG!
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It's a bug if the defenders hit the ball with there head from there penalty aria until the middle of the field and some stupid striker can't hit the post from 2m with there head ??????????????

Also i consider bug this stupid thing with "intelligent" defender, who covers the striker(s).. why the f... we boder to set the strikers where are no defenders ??????

Question: why don't you post match link + minute it happened in the topic? Takes to much time while you can make this screaming post?

And I defend Sokker while I'm asking info to show the DEVs? You have problems with reading, right?

EDIT: and stop lying!
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yes, post minute and match noob!:)
should i link the topic, or already linked by anyone?:)

I KNOW I WILL NOT PAY FOR SOMETHING THIS SHITTY AND WHICH I DON'T PLAY WITH PLEASURE !!!

Then why do you play?

Also i consider bug this stupid thing with "intelligent" defender, who covers the striker(s).. why the f... we boder to set the strikers where are no defenders ??????

Question: why don't you post match link + minute it happened in the topic? Takes to much time while you can make this screaming post?


match link + minute = all the match when the new me was change :))) [lol]

Alright Charles let me take over this for a little bit, it seems there is a bit too much drama at the moment with you in here and everyone would rather argue with you as opposed to keep on topic.

Everybody involved in arguments with Charles, please drop them and instead if you have valid concerns come to me.

What I am willing to read:
- ME bugs in your game with a minute and link to match. If there is no link or minute, I will not read.
Bugs are allowed to include something like "slowing down after advancing the ball for a breakaway" or "passing the ball back in a shoot scenario" but cannot include something like "missing the goal from 5m away"
- Thoughts on injuries, length of game, and what you feel are reasonable scores.
- Thoughts on the new changes (such as more combination play, various headers, defenders trying to cover off throw ins better, etc)

What I will not read:
-insults
-Any complaints about greg, Charles Hill, or anybody else who is trying to help you out
-Bugs that do not have evidence with a match link and minute
-Complaints about you losing a game because you outshot your opponent 20-5. It happens. Find me specific times in the game where something didn't make sense or seemed strange and I'll look at it.
-If the specific time you give me for above is "1-90th minute huehuehuehuehue"

I love this game and want to help. After watching my last season game I can verify for sure the ME is actually IMPROVING and while there are still bugs and silly things, it's moving in the right direction considering how players cover now and try to move the ball around more. It will take time and lots of effort, so please don't waste my time.

-Llama

There is one thing I once proposed on test server [there's a number of my topics out there, you can check them if you have the time and will]:

through passes in the air. I think that would make these 5/6-def tactics less effective.

when a mid should use a through air-pass? when he has a lot of space around him and time to 'think'. more space and time = higher possibility of such pass + higher possibility of succeeding such pass.

it would create a demand for more mids in the centre of midfield to cover opponents' mids and would make 5-def tactics less game/striker-killing

Definitely something to look at. I think the 5-6 line defenses were definitely a problem (5-3-2 lineup in general) and while combination play has helped get rid of it a little bit, something like this would be good to incorporate as well.

It would be particularly sensible in the new engine since strikers are covered faaar too easily by the defenders who started automatically marking them, hence through passes are stopped in most cases, not to mention simple passes to strikers.

It would also lower the efficiency of ultra-high defences, which often has proven to kill the game in midfield.
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5-6 defender line-ups were only a 'problem' in top leagues and NT matches, not in the other leagues.
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