Subject: »news Match Engine Changes

some general remarks regarding the current me setting for my level of league (average team in 4th belgian division) :
-the difference in pace between players seems to be somewhat exagerated now
-more 'passing play' comes from bad controlls than from passing itself (has been like this in every previous season but now it's made even more clear now because of the 2D view adjustments)
-the gameplay looked more natural than in the previous weeks because there's more midfield play but there's no relation between field domination and number of chances, which feels counter-intuitive.
-any play at the sides of the field is of no consequence, players will usually pass back or sideways before they reach a pivot point for an assist
-throw-ins can be very long now
-tackling from any player is too strong

I had my response regards to my weir match by a staff member and nothing had been changed by greg... Thus, we only can conclude logically that the tactical aspect is completely useless when you are able to see 2 different games in one match... We could think about form skill but our teams (mine and opponent one) are really high level today... Only this ME is only turn towards hazard...

Is it serious???

http://online.sokker.org/?match=19515895/FC%20Sz%C3%A1rliget-GeszPe
FC Szárliget 6 : 7 GeszPe


If it is a joke, I'm not laughing. If it is serious, I'm gonna leave today.
No defender works, no golkeeper works, it is just a huge crap.

Kinda normal if the DEFs score an average mark of 20 to 30 points less as the winger and ATTs, then you get many goals. Look at your worst DEF and his ATT, ofcourse this DEF won't be able to stop his ATT. Maybe the only really strange thing I can find is that his keeper didn't stop more goals, but I haven't watch the match so can't exactly say if this was normal or not.

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Att normaly get 15-25% more than Def in higher leagues so I dont think it is explanations for this waterpolo result.

even i shouldn't have scored that mach goals to that keeper, and that def-line. of course, he can score goals from my weakest def, if the result is 2:3, 3:4 or something like that i wouldn't say a word. If you watch this match, you can see it was just unbilivable and unreal. the matches (and results) 'til now, more or less looked like a real one, but if you watch this, you can see it was really something else.

I only watched the first 20 minutes - both tactics were crap. Your team was much too defensive, expecially your defense retreated back almost to the goal line, allowing the opponent strikers loads of free space in the penalty area. You are lucky that your opponent played with 6 defs (wtf) with hardly any b-skills, with a stronger midfield he would have created much more opportunities. He also lost many balls due to this lack of playmaking abilities, that's where you could score with a decent winger and striker.

Yeah, GKs had not their best day on either side, but that can happen. In my last cup game, not a single save was made by the GKs, although mine was unearthly and the opponent one not too bad either. And at that time, strikers were crap and one goal was a distant shot from a MID.

This is another story, why my def's were almost on the goal-line, beacause they shouldn't have had. It worked perfectly on the last two matches. I wouldn't say my tactic was the best, but come'on! Never mind, i will see what is gonna happen next week.

ME is a complete and utter disgrace , that tonight was woeful , greg you gotta get your finger out yer arse and fix this asap son or you gonna lose all your custom

how can you seriously happily waste such a good game man ? your brain must be mush lol

I've got a bot team in my league, last season was bot also and have finished with 13 points in the ranking.....this season with the new engine and with the same teams like the last season already got 11 points in 6 rounds, they are beating good teams in the row with good and preoccupied users.
With the old engine you could beat a bot team making the right tactics, now you do it but the bot team is beating you !? something wrong in the engine changes, tactics importance/influence surely got decreased....
Right after the bot team got without user I could beat them with 3-0, 6-1....when the team was with user they have beaten me with 1-0, 5-1....so this was the difference team with user/team without user, now I'll have my next match with the bot, if I don't lose will be a good surprise to me.

The ME does appear to be getting better, perhaps its been pushed a little too far the other way however. The number of goals increased a lot this week, for example in my league:

Thirteen goals in the game

We should communicate the changes on the main log-in page so users are aware its still being tweaked.

Do these active teams use different tactics or still the same as last season? And do they even change tactics or always just the same every week? And also, tactics that worked out great in the old ME isn't a garantee it will work as good with the new ME.

Besides, 1 striker tactics won't work that well anymore, has been posted on the forum many times by now and I also found out today.

Wideboys' GK and left winger have been injured, so the match couldn't have been easier for AFC Bramford Lane ;)
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Perhaps, but we wouldn't have seen more than 3-4 goals in the same game last week.

Strange matches can happen, 1 example isn't a problem but 1000 is, as greg told us ;)

ME seems to need some tweaking but it's coming along nicely

in my last game I won 1-0

Shots were 5-1

Everything checked out pretty well. Could've had a few more shots though if the strikers ran in straight lines to the goal instead of weird angles lol