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Subject: »news Match Engine Changes

2012-07-15 13:55:32
the player passing to himself(to follow) and slowing down looks the most important bug in the new engine

This bug should have been solved with last update. Please post link to match + minute(s) it happened in topic [BUG] ME Errors so it can be showed to the DEVs.
2012-07-15 14:06:37
Yes i do i want same ME for the whole season!!!
2012-07-15 14:17:46
Look at my U21 game on friday come on, at least 12 times players slowing down!
I allready will send this to a moderator today.
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2012-07-15 15:55:45
Yes i do i want same ME for the whole season!!!

So you wanted the wrong ME as it was at the beginning of the season for a whole season?? Don't think many will agree with you looking at all the comments at that time ....
2012-07-15 16:05:08
Things are getting better, im just worried about those launched balls, which are still unsolved, and those loosen headers from outside the area. Strikers should try to take the ball and dribble past the defender instead of heading the ball towards goal from 25 meters and tight angle.
2012-07-15 16:09:22
this season is really bizarre!
it's really hard to score a goal from great chances (one on one, long shoot, free-kick, etc). but guess what, today i got conceded by a pass not a shot, twice!!
and don't ask about quality, because again, my team was the better side statistically and play on 100% pitch condition and good weather x(
2012-07-15 16:37:29
apparently game seems better but it's no longer than a bingo game
2012-07-15 16:51:21
I will not complain for the ME status at the momment!

I will just wish that ME will be fixed 100% until the play off matches,so teams would not be promoted or relegated RANDOMLY...
2012-07-15 22:24:09
Ok wiseguy ;)
You said I should try to place 2 strikers next to each other so that maybe not both could be auto-covered. I tried that today against an opponent I know very well and has played with the same tactics as when I met him last, with the old engine (v 10.6). He playes a 5 man defense with his wingbacks placed 3 spaces to the side of the nearest central defender. So I tried to place my first striker on top of his rightmost central defender, and the other striker next to him on the right side. From the outmost striker there should then still be 2 spaces to the wingback, and I figured that the rightmost central defender on which my first striker was placed would not re-adjust as he already "got" his man. But you know what? Most of the match the wingback auto replaced himself so much, and so did the most central defender, that BOTH strikers were fully covered by TREE defenders. There were times during the match where his wingback should have been standing 1 space from the sideline (and like I said I know his tactcs very well) - but no - the wingback autoreplaced himself sometimes up to two spaces towards the center, so that he and two central defenders could multi-sandwich my two strikers. Really annoying to see that it is no longer possible to make a huge difference due to tactics. Better, and much quicker, to just choose an allround set-up, go down on your knees, and pray.

Many of the other changes seems good - at least the intentions are, but the "auto-covering" thingie should never have seen the light of day. It should be rolled back ASAP, as its a disgrace to tactical efforts. Just my humble opinion.

I still win, but I'm just so sad about finding myself fast-forwarding through periods of the match - something I have never done before when watching the match first time through.
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2012-07-16 00:08:48
Alright :) Good to know that didn't work to well. Ofcourse only 1 match is still not that learnful as years of experience with the old ME, but with this kind of info we are getting somewhere :) Think playing against a team with 5 DEFs will always be a problem to breakthrough because of auto-defense as it is a 'closed' line of DEFs. I'm trying out some other things with my friendly matches, like 3 DEFs and 2 infront of them. And I'm also trying some things out with my MIDs and ATTs.

But I have to say I'm not sure which ME we saw today because of all the problems. I have read many comments that should not have happened because of the last updates, also in my own match like launch and run problems again.
2012-07-16 08:29:19
The automatic covering by DEFs and players slowing down definitely came back this week.
Did not see last week. So something was changed.
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2012-07-16 14:13:41
1. Nothing has changed.
2. Automatic covering is very realistic in my opinion.
2012-07-16 14:26:32
Strikers respects tactics, defenders will auto-cover. How realistic is that?
2012-07-16 14:29:20
Sounds like real-life actually
2012-07-16 14:35:45
So in RL forwards are not trying to loose the defender who marks them?
2012-07-16 14:55:25
firstly this is a non realistic game, tactic possitions defenders was one of the best things sokker had.