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noob :P

lol

oops didn't mean that.. that's common : )
I meant

Combination play

It might look like this is a little change.... but that's not true. In fact the modification is much bigger than the ticket prices added. As with that change there is a related testing process that took a number of weeks. How do we test? We generate hundred of matches and run them repeatedly. It takes up to half and hour. Than we analyse the statistics we get from the matches like average score, shots on the goal, number of passes, long and short, average pass distance, and dozens of similar stats. We check in the statistics to see if the engine performed close to what we wanted to achieve (usually its not:), view some matches and than make some parameter tuning and engine corrections and then repeat testing.... over and over for weeks. Despite this laborious testing, we are still not sure how the engine will perform in every single match. We have already tested combination play a few seasons ago, but that time it failed and we removed it from the match engine. Hopefully this time it will be a success as it is now a much better balance. Please report bugs on Bugs / Ideas (en) forum with match ID and minute, report bug only if weird situation is repeated at least twice in single match and if it is passing bug - especially if player passed instead of shooting or passed to the wrong player. We are mainly interested in NT matches bugs or with top club teams playing their first team squads. Reported bugs in other situation will make it hard to determine if the player was just low skilled, or the engine generated the mistaken action :]

combination play had been stopped very soon as it had made offensive defender lines even stronger than now. I don't know if the devs are still working on it, would be nice of course. Sokker is dominated by cross and running passes, more short passes would make it more interesting.

edit: I was mistaken here, please regard my post below
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are you sure it stopped?

when i see some matches i see much combination play when players are close to eachother.

yes, I'm sure

short passes happen, but not when many opponent players are near. So you can't get over a close defender line by short passes...

edit: I was mistaken here, please regard my post below
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Thank you for your answer.

@wybo mids with high PM pass the ball quickly to each other if they are unable to pass it to someone in front of them (striker or winger). That sometimes look like combination play, but without running into vast space. That is why I was asking.
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ah ok :)

found this old post from greg in linguist forum:

2008-12-18 09:10:23
greg an cambrant

when I will know what will be testing next saturday :) Currently for sure out are (to remove):
- body blocking
- new combination passes

It helped teams playing with 5 defenders or more

that is a post out 2008, the quote above was from 2010...

(but yes i think it isn't here anymore. the short passes i have seen are different as in the 2010 quote)
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ah ok, I'm sorry, I completely forgot about this second change, as it wasn't as extensive as the first one. And it didn't concern the offensive play like I had hoped for.

So I was wrong and the change from the quote above is still active.

here are 2 quotes from the right linguist topic:


2010-07-20 15:21:58
greg an mauser

BTW: we could publish it in form like it was recetly, so not hugely more combination play than was before, but rather little more, don't expect ping-pong :]


2010-07-20 15:24:45
greg an mauser
I meant "short" running passes, my football dictionary calls them through passes. Let's say like Spain and especially Barcelona ;)

rather no, already passed when possible, rather more play in the middle and wide play

@wybo mids with high PM pass the ball quickly to each other if they are unable to pass it to someone in front of them (striker or winger). That sometimes look like combination play, but without running into vast space. That is why I was asking.

I think that's what this second combination play has improved a bit. It didn't bring us better passes from the midfielders to the strikers, but faster passes to free midfielders at the same height or to wingbacks.

Thank you. And yes that i see a lot :-)

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