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Subject: little junior talent tool

2010-06-23 14:32:27
between 3° and 4° line in my excel sheet (see up), you could see the application of "TRUNC" function...

... it seems to be what The Manager asked...

(edited)
2010-06-23 14:50:36
yeah, that's it ;)))

thank you very much, it works ;)
2010-06-23 15:26:33
;)
2010-06-24 17:23:30
2) Using this function by myself, I noticed that this technique isn't so reliable. It needs a lot of evaluations (according to me at least 15), ad it seems to significantly change talent estimation during weeks even with just one/two evaluation more... what do you think about?

I also have such an Excel sheet and I added a coefficient of determination to have a calculated overview about the spread of the datas. The closer this coef. is to 1, the more accurate is the talent evatuation.
2010-06-24 20:30:31
I am using your excel sheet
2010-06-25 10:05:42
Nice to know some of you are using it.
I somehow stopped its development but I still plan to improve it.

If one of you is expert in importing XML data into Excel, I'd appreciate any advice.
2010-06-25 11:54:42
I added a coefficient of determination to have a calculated overview about the spread of the datas.

What kind of coefficient? I don't understand :/
2010-06-25 16:47:54
its called a correlation coefficient in english ;)

e.g use this

http://www.easycalculation.com/statistics/correlation.php

all it does is shows how much the current graphs fail XD
(edited)
2010-06-25 16:54:48
It only gets out the big fluctuations... but it does not correct this:

5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5

when real progress was : 4 4 4 5 5 5 6 6 6

There is no way to sort this kind of problems out. I see enough not big fluctuation who look great/rubbish after 10 weeks and turns out after 17 weeks the opposite.
2010-06-28 14:01:36
I use the Pearson coefficient of correlation applied to the sample of datas.

In Excel (English) you can use the RSQ function.
2010-06-28 14:03:07
you sure you should use pearson's instead of spearman's?
2010-06-28 14:40:01
do i get it?

these are some values do i get for my players:
0,86 - probably good talentevaluation?
0,12 - not good evaluation
0,93 - probably good evaluation
0,53 - mediocre evaluation

i say "probably" good because of my statement before about the problem of few data. But the 0.12 is definatly not a good evaluation because it has a low correlation. Am i right?

/edit:

this fictual player gets a correlation of 0.14
5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 6

(edited)
2010-06-28 14:42:50
In fact, I use R² which is calculated from Pearson.
Imho, it's enough and correctly related with the poor number of datas we can deal with :)
2010-06-28 14:43:45
You are perfectly right.
0,86 is the limit.

You should also make sure that you have at least a 11 weeks history to take this statements in consideration.

(Edit for complements)
(edited)
2010-06-28 14:46:58
I think my formula is not right i use 0-34 for 'y', but it give low correlation for low talented players.... do you use something else for 'y'?

/edit: i use 10 weeks for my formula now, but the 0.12 player is 11 weeks in:
6 4 6 6 7 6 6 6 7 6 6 6
(edited)
2010-06-28 14:49:31
this fictual player gets a correlation of 0.14
5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 6


You're right!
That's sounds weird. I'll try to sort it out...