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Subject: Do Something for Sokker, for real!!!
they intention is obviously kill the game, the could not done it better
Yes, every morning Greg wakes up and think "How could i destroy the game i made"
Obvious.
Obvious.
they can do it better. just shut down the servers ....
LOL, no man that is too easy... this way is more clever :P
in czech we say "je línej jak polská veš" and it completely fits in this case
Lol, yes sure... they are lazy.
You realy do not know what you are talking about. Communication in sokker is not great, i admit, but saying that the devs are lazy is total ridicul crap.
And besides of that, using stereotypes to make your point.... Fail.
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You realy do not know what you are talking about. Communication in sokker is not great, i admit, but saying that the devs are lazy is total ridicul crap.
And besides of that, using stereotypes to make your point.... Fail.
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Maybe you are longer in this game, but since when is that a valid argument? It says nothing.
Maybe you talk to them like in this topic. Then it is totaly normal that they do not listen to you... no-one wil accept such attitude.
But now facts. Just look to the last couple of years in sokker and the changes. There were a lot for such a small game as this. Calling them lazy is just a lie. Maybe they did not make the changes you want, that does not mean they made no changes to te game.
In HT there is much more money, much more devs... and the changes they made in the same time were not much bigger then here.
But as you shown with your last post (and before) that you can not discuss with arguments but only with trashtalk, I let you here.
Maybe you talk to them like in this topic. Then it is totaly normal that they do not listen to you... no-one wil accept such attitude.
But now facts. Just look to the last couple of years in sokker and the changes. There were a lot for such a small game as this. Calling them lazy is just a lie. Maybe they did not make the changes you want, that does not mean they made no changes to te game.
In HT there is much more money, much more devs... and the changes they made in the same time were not much bigger then here.
But as you shown with your last post (and before) that you can not discuss with arguments but only with trashtalk, I let you here.
Changes were made with the intention of making the game better and therefore getting more people to play it
Last month it became clear that the game had lost 4000-10000 users or around 7-15% of the userbase
In broad terms, this means the changes that were made didn't work in the desired way.
"Maybe they did not make the changes you want, that does not mean they made no changes to te game."
It may as well mean that. If you can't keep your customers happy and you can't attract new users you are finished.
Last month it became clear that the game had lost 4000-10000 users or around 7-15% of the userbase
In broad terms, this means the changes that were made didn't work in the desired way.
"Maybe they did not make the changes you want, that does not mean they made no changes to te game."
It may as well mean that. If you can't keep your customers happy and you can't attract new users you are finished.
All of this talk is pointless. I think we've gotten to the point now where there is a need for the devs to actually come out and say what their intention for this game is, or if they even have one.
The talk is not pointless, you can measure how high the discontents are, and to send a stronger signal. Otherwise, I entirely agree with you: they have to come out and to say what is their intention.
What I don't understand is a very simple thing: since you built up a game, why don't you define it clearly, what are the major objectives and what will be the game exactly ?
As sokker is not an easy game like Ht, we can have it like a certain game with good tactical frame or we can have it like an accurate copy of the real football, the best football simulator. The first way is practically an unknown way, the second one is a very clear one. Personally, I want the real football accurate simulator, I want it even if the users won't be very numerous, and even if we have to pay more (maybe to pay every user older than 3 month in the game), but I want to know clearly the (right) way.
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The talk is not pointless, you can measure how high the discontents are, and to send a stronger signal. Otherwise, I entirely agree with you: they have to come out and to say what is their intention.
What I don't understand is a very simple thing: since you built up a game, why don't you define it clearly, what are the major objectives and what will be the game exactly ?
As sokker is not an easy game like Ht, we can have it like a certain game with good tactical frame or we can have it like an accurate copy of the real football, the best football simulator. The first way is practically an unknown way, the second one is a very clear one. Personally, I want the real football accurate simulator, I want it even if the users won't be very numerous, and even if we have to pay more (maybe to pay every user older than 3 month in the game), but I want to know clearly the (right) way.
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looks like there won't be any changes or anything this new season...
It's a shame, really shame...
Once again, sokker is getting stuck while other soccer managers like trophy manager or HT make their own work, and making users feel more confortable with the game.
I hope devs don't see Sokker as a hobby, but as a business.
It's a shame, really shame...
Once again, sokker is getting stuck while other soccer managers like trophy manager or HT make their own work, and making users feel more confortable with the game.
I hope devs don't see Sokker as a hobby, but as a business.
Around 10% of their userbase but they've got 850000 users left. This site lost about 15% of users over the space of 3 months
looks like there won't be any changes or anything this new season...
It's a shame, really shame...
Once again, sokker is getting stuck while other soccer managers like trophy manager or HT make their own work, and making users feel more confortable with the game.
As for me, I'm not so worried of not making any improvements, I'm worried because of non-strategy and the lack of contact between the "managers" and the costumers.
I prefer not having improvements but to build and show up at least one variant of strategy.
I hope devs don't see Sokker as a hobby, but as a business.
This is my point too.
I renew my offer, in case is somebody to hear/read it (is it ?): I accept to pay more for Plus, make it double, but please show us a medium-long term strategy for the game, and start a debate/opinion research, let's see what we can get for to revive the game.
Can I have a better offer ?
It's a shame, really shame...
Once again, sokker is getting stuck while other soccer managers like trophy manager or HT make their own work, and making users feel more confortable with the game.
As for me, I'm not so worried of not making any improvements, I'm worried because of non-strategy and the lack of contact between the "managers" and the costumers.
I prefer not having improvements but to build and show up at least one variant of strategy.
I hope devs don't see Sokker as a hobby, but as a business.
This is my point too.
I renew my offer, in case is somebody to hear/read it (is it ?): I accept to pay more for Plus, make it double, but please show us a medium-long term strategy for the game, and start a debate/opinion research, let's see what we can get for to revive the game.
Can I have a better offer ?
All of this talk is pointless. I think we've gotten to the point now where there is a need for the devs to actually come out and say what their intention for this game is, or if they even have one.
You really said all there is to say. This discussion we have had over years now leading nowhere. Well at least as long as I have been here.
As they dont really say anything and are likely to continue like that there is no point for us to bother.
Over years devs behaviour created a certain profile of how they are.
Guys there is by now another game out there, very similar. I am pretty certain it will be better soon, because they do something which devs here dont realy do, they listen to their "customers".
You really said all there is to say. This discussion we have had over years now leading nowhere. Well at least as long as I have been here.
As they dont really say anything and are likely to continue like that there is no point for us to bother.
Over years devs behaviour created a certain profile of how they are.
Guys there is by now another game out there, very similar. I am pretty certain it will be better soon, because they do something which devs here dont realy do, they listen to their "customers".
I wish it would have been possible to buy sokker (even 5-6 people) and make it professional and a real business...
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