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Subject: much injuries and red cards
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Hi,
I am playing sokker more than five years, so, I think I could indicate some errors, call them as you like, but which are repeating constantly for many years. This is my fourth season in Serbian 1st league, one of the strongest in the sokker world, and some pretty stupid things are happening there, which actually destroys sokker.
I brought at least 15 people into sokker with me, from which at least 10 is paying PLUS. :)
They have also, latter brought more people with them, so we became a large bunch, 50 men (not children, 27 and more years old).
Those are my friends, in real life, and we are often making "sokker meet", so, we have our point of view about some things related with sokker.
First and the most important thing - number of injuries, and second - amount of a red
cards, especially direct ones!I understand that you need a stronger bench, but still, that
is too much, and one of the main reason why the people are leaving the sokker!
Example:
There is 14 rounds per season, and I've got 14 red cards and 11 injuries, and without the
CUP and friendly games!From those 14, I've played 2 matches 3 vs 3, just to keep players
healthy for next, more important matches. That means the I had 14 red cards from ONLY 12
games, and with 11 injuries, that is really and funny and stupid in the same time! Another
manager had more than 20 injuriesand few red cards. Isn't that stupid, to happen to
anyone!?
Lets go to English Premier League for a sec: Imagine that Manchester United have 38 red
cards per season, one card per match, because there is 38 rounds ... and beside that, in
85% of all matches, they finish the game with at least one injured player! Did something
like that, ever, in football history happened!? Yup, but to sokker players! :)
Those injuries aren't naive, at all, even up to 30 days, so, when older player , 30 y +
is injured, ha can't play 5/6 weeks, which is almost half of a season! The injuries are
both, and often and too long ...
BAD LUCK is playing too big role in sokker. On the other hand, football is mostly based on some sort of luck, for example - you can say > "You had luck and won because of our unused chances." (functioning well in sokker), but, here, in 90% of matches, main excuse is: "You won because two of my players were injured today, and two more get a red cards!" In RL, that number of injuries and red cards wouldn't be possible even if rugby team plays football against some amateurs!
The best example: last week sokker WC qualifiers: over 40 injuries, and 28 red cards! More than can happen in all qualification rounds in RL, we have in one week! 28 RED CARDS, can it be real!?
I am fighting with this unrealistic parts of the sokker for almost 6 months, and no one from sokker administration doesn't care about it. There is "more important" things to do, as getting more active users, but they don't see that there is a problem, how to keep old users! In less than 2 years, 30 k users left the game, and that is almost a half! If it continues, after 2 more, there will be about 10k , from 80!
Help me to, at least make admins to try to do something about that, to show us that they care, and they are trying to fix those things.
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example on my previous two seasons:
injury this season - first two seasons
Royston Sharp, age: 32 - injury: (13 days)
Radojica Klimović, age: 20 - injury: (16 days)
Carlos Muchacho, age: 25 - injury: (13 days)
Milivoje Miličković, age 27 - injury: (23 days)
Bánk Pál, age: 26 - injury: (26 days)
Bánk Pál, age: 26 - injury: (7 days)
Pere Sendra, age: 25 - injury: (23days)
Andrija Arambašić, age: 18 - injury: (9 days)
Dragutin Denčić, age: 31 -injury: (27 days)
Konstanty Kieruczenko, age: 16 - injury: (12 days)
Czesław Powałka, age: 30 - injury: (10 days)
Czesław Powałka, age: 30 - injury: (7 days)
Jort Remie, age: 31 - injury: (8 days)
Stefan Vasiljević - injury: (22days)
Andrija Arambašić, age: 18i ; injury: (17 days)...
Aleksandar Vilotijević, age: 23 injury: (19 days)
_____________________________________ :-O________________________
the last three rounds:
Pere Sendra - 34 days
Klemens Kuziński - 9 days
Milivoje Tešanović - 27 days
Bartłomiej Karamon - 7 days
Tinel Vasilescu - 25 days
Daniele Loffo - 11
___________________ ___________ 113 days injury____the last three rounds
- I have no more power to Sokker!
__________________________________
ONE TERRIBLE EVAMPLE
[NT]World Cup Qualifiers - 2012-05-05 - week 13
of the 46 games we have:
- 40 injuries and
- 28 red card______________ horrible!!!!!_______________
too big role in Sokker ACCIDENT.
______________________________________
I would be grateful to those who would put this topic in his country on the subject of injuries or red cards.
I appreciate you taking the time to read my post.
(edited)
I am playing sokker more than five years, so, I think I could indicate some errors, call them as you like, but which are repeating constantly for many years. This is my fourth season in Serbian 1st league, one of the strongest in the sokker world, and some pretty stupid things are happening there, which actually destroys sokker.
I brought at least 15 people into sokker with me, from which at least 10 is paying PLUS. :)
They have also, latter brought more people with them, so we became a large bunch, 50 men (not children, 27 and more years old).
Those are my friends, in real life, and we are often making "sokker meet", so, we have our point of view about some things related with sokker.
First and the most important thing - number of injuries, and second - amount of a red
cards, especially direct ones!I understand that you need a stronger bench, but still, that
is too much, and one of the main reason why the people are leaving the sokker!
Example:
There is 14 rounds per season, and I've got 14 red cards and 11 injuries, and without the
CUP and friendly games!From those 14, I've played 2 matches 3 vs 3, just to keep players
healthy for next, more important matches. That means the I had 14 red cards from ONLY 12
games, and with 11 injuries, that is really and funny and stupid in the same time! Another
manager had more than 20 injuriesand few red cards. Isn't that stupid, to happen to
anyone!?
Lets go to English Premier League for a sec: Imagine that Manchester United have 38 red
cards per season, one card per match, because there is 38 rounds ... and beside that, in
85% of all matches, they finish the game with at least one injured player! Did something
like that, ever, in football history happened!? Yup, but to sokker players! :)
Those injuries aren't naive, at all, even up to 30 days, so, when older player , 30 y +
is injured, ha can't play 5/6 weeks, which is almost half of a season! The injuries are
both, and often and too long ...
BAD LUCK is playing too big role in sokker. On the other hand, football is mostly based on some sort of luck, for example - you can say > "You had luck and won because of our unused chances." (functioning well in sokker), but, here, in 90% of matches, main excuse is: "You won because two of my players were injured today, and two more get a red cards!" In RL, that number of injuries and red cards wouldn't be possible even if rugby team plays football against some amateurs!
The best example: last week sokker WC qualifiers: over 40 injuries, and 28 red cards! More than can happen in all qualification rounds in RL, we have in one week! 28 RED CARDS, can it be real!?
I am fighting with this unrealistic parts of the sokker for almost 6 months, and no one from sokker administration doesn't care about it. There is "more important" things to do, as getting more active users, but they don't see that there is a problem, how to keep old users! In less than 2 years, 30 k users left the game, and that is almost a half! If it continues, after 2 more, there will be about 10k , from 80!
Help me to, at least make admins to try to do something about that, to show us that they care, and they are trying to fix those things.
__________________________________
example on my previous two seasons:
injury this season - first two seasons
Royston Sharp, age: 32 - injury: (13 days)
Radojica Klimović, age: 20 - injury: (16 days)
Carlos Muchacho, age: 25 - injury: (13 days)
Milivoje Miličković, age 27 - injury: (23 days)
Bánk Pál, age: 26 - injury: (26 days)
Bánk Pál, age: 26 - injury: (7 days)
Pere Sendra, age: 25 - injury: (23days)
Andrija Arambašić, age: 18 - injury: (9 days)
Dragutin Denčić, age: 31 -injury: (27 days)
Konstanty Kieruczenko, age: 16 - injury: (12 days)
Czesław Powałka, age: 30 - injury: (10 days)
Czesław Powałka, age: 30 - injury: (7 days)
Jort Remie, age: 31 - injury: (8 days)
Stefan Vasiljević - injury: (22days)
Andrija Arambašić, age: 18i ; injury: (17 days)...
Aleksandar Vilotijević, age: 23 injury: (19 days)
_____________________________________ :-O________________________
the last three rounds:
Pere Sendra - 34 days
Klemens Kuziński - 9 days
Milivoje Tešanović - 27 days
Bartłomiej Karamon - 7 days
Tinel Vasilescu - 25 days
Daniele Loffo - 11
___________________ ___________ 113 days injury____the last three rounds
- I have no more power to Sokker!
__________________________________
ONE TERRIBLE EVAMPLE
[NT]World Cup Qualifiers - 2012-05-05 - week 13
of the 46 games we have:
- 40 injuries and
- 28 red card______________ horrible!!!!!_______________
too big role in Sokker ACCIDENT.
______________________________________
I would be grateful to those who would put this topic in his country on the subject of injuries or red cards.
I appreciate you taking the time to read my post.
(edited)
Large, huge post! :D
Anyhow, this should be really interesting:
Week 0 cup - NT player
week 1 cup -the same player! xD
week 2 NT game
week 2 cup - third time the same player!
week 7 - league fourth time the same player, and one more, again NT ...
week 8 - league - again NT player ...
Week 11 - league 2nd time the same NT player
etc.
Anyhow, this should be really interesting:
Week 0 cup - NT player
week 1 cup -the same player! xD
week 2 NT game
week 2 cup - third time the same player!
week 7 - league fourth time the same player, and one more, again NT ...
week 8 - league - again NT player ...
Week 11 - league 2nd time the same NT player
etc.
Personaly I think they are normal comparing to real life! (counting on my team's history)
My only obgection is the red cards in friendly games!!! It is ridiculus so many red cards in friendlies, we lose trainig als that way!!!
My only obgection is the red cards in friendly games!!! It is ridiculus so many red cards in friendlies, we lose trainig als that way!!!
You exposed us your last 2 seasons but you are in SK for 5 years. Could you give us your about 15 past seasons on SK to compare what you want to show us...
You had very bad luck those 2 last seasons, that's obvious but you don't talk about the revious seasons you were on SK... Tell us about thos missing statistics please. Thx
Otherwise, you biased your view of SK for only seeing 2 unlucky seasons. Which is clearly unfair.
You had very bad luck those 2 last seasons, that's obvious but you don't talk about the revious seasons you were on SK... Tell us about thos missing statistics please. Thx
Otherwise, you biased your view of SK for only seeing 2 unlucky seasons. Which is clearly unfair.
Yes, I also remember 2 unlucky seasons but the rest were ok;)
and that is what makes sokker interesting
i had seasons where i lost titles just because i was ran over by number of injuries, but that's the game.
imagine havin' arsen wenger here and his arsenal players with legs made of glass xD
or imagine having injuries that end careers. that would be the real thing :D
i had seasons where i lost titles just because i was ran over by number of injuries, but that's the game.
imagine havin' arsen wenger here and his arsenal players with legs made of glass xD
or imagine having injuries that end careers. that would be the real thing :D
That coach is realy screwed by real life match engine.
yes, this season was no player without injury and for example yesterday game stats: 4 injured players in 90 minutes ...
This game should definately have less red cards. The numbers clearly show that and I have already proven that on this topic. The problem is especially that you can get a RC the same in 1st minute as well as in 90th minute which leads to situations practically non-existent in real football. We have seen too many high level matches with e.g. 3 red cards to the same team in 1st halftime(!?). If anyone ever saw such a game more than once in their life (I personally never saw such a game), he must either be really old and has seen a lot of football or he plays sokker.
Injuries are a lesser problem here but they are also much too frequent in general. Injuries are less comparable to RL football but it is also quite obvious that situations where 2 or even more players need to leave the match because of injuries are not that frequent in RL as they are in sokker.
Anyway, this is an online game and the purpose here is fun and not to have exact replica of RL football. So, rules should be set in a way that no one could ever argue that there are more injuries and red cards than in RL. I mean, injuries and red cards are not the fun part of football in RL as well. Yes, they are an important part of the game, same as referee mistakes, but they are not the part that should spoil the fun in a game like this for anyone. Nobody should ever leave this game because he gets annoyed by too much injuries and/or red cards. That's just plain stupid.
In RL red cards are also penalties for misbehaviour and injuries happen frequently to players of poor physical condition. Nobody here has influence on how their players behave or on their physical condition. So, no one shoud also be penalised extensively by factors they have no influence on and have less fun because of sheer bad luck.
I assure you that everyone will easily accept if there are less injuries and red cards in sokker than in RL. No one will ever leave this game because of it nor wil anyone ever make a topic: "hey, let's have more of those" if you reduce them. It's better to have much less of them than needed than even a little bit too many.
Injuries are a lesser problem here but they are also much too frequent in general. Injuries are less comparable to RL football but it is also quite obvious that situations where 2 or even more players need to leave the match because of injuries are not that frequent in RL as they are in sokker.
Anyway, this is an online game and the purpose here is fun and not to have exact replica of RL football. So, rules should be set in a way that no one could ever argue that there are more injuries and red cards than in RL. I mean, injuries and red cards are not the fun part of football in RL as well. Yes, they are an important part of the game, same as referee mistakes, but they are not the part that should spoil the fun in a game like this for anyone. Nobody should ever leave this game because he gets annoyed by too much injuries and/or red cards. That's just plain stupid.
In RL red cards are also penalties for misbehaviour and injuries happen frequently to players of poor physical condition. Nobody here has influence on how their players behave or on their physical condition. So, no one shoud also be penalised extensively by factors they have no influence on and have less fun because of sheer bad luck.
I assure you that everyone will easily accept if there are less injuries and red cards in sokker than in RL. No one will ever leave this game because of it nor wil anyone ever make a topic: "hey, let's have more of those" if you reduce them. It's better to have much less of them than needed than even a little bit too many.
You exposed us your last 2 seasons but you are in SK for 5 years. Could you give us your about 15 past seasons on SK to compare what you want to show us...
You had very bad luck those 2 last seasons, that's obvious but you don't talk about the revious seasons you were on SK... Tell us about thos missing statistics please. Thx
Otherwise, you biased your view of SK for only seeing 2 unlucky seasons. Which is clearly unfair.
80% of the season I was like this.
Of course you do not have that information ...
[NT]World Cup Qualifiers - 2012-05-05 - week 13
of the 46 games we have:
- 40 injuries and
- 28 red card
repeat, this gives you the best yardstick.
p.s. followed by sunday and a new headache.
You had very bad luck those 2 last seasons, that's obvious but you don't talk about the revious seasons you were on SK... Tell us about thos missing statistics please. Thx
Otherwise, you biased your view of SK for only seeing 2 unlucky seasons. Which is clearly unfair.
80% of the season I was like this.
Of course you do not have that information ...
[NT]World Cup Qualifiers - 2012-05-05 - week 13
of the 46 games we have:
- 40 injuries and
- 28 red card
repeat, this gives you the best yardstick.
p.s. followed by sunday and a new headache.
I think that still most of the managers don't get that much of injuries so you are just unlucky and I don't think it needs changing. Even if people vote that they get too many injuries some of them maybe more than those who get a lot of injuries still vote Yes cause they got few of them which just made them a bit miserable or the strongest players or best talents were injured.
Pere Sendra, Age:28
club: Rudar Vrdnik, country: España
Value: 1 972 500 $, Wage: 23 875 $
outstanding (12) Form, incredible (13) Tactical discipline
height: 168
injury: (22 days) - was 34 days
formidable (11) stamina, unsatisfactory (2) keeper
incredible (13) pace, incredible (13) defender
magical (15) technique, divine (17) playmaker
divine (17) passing, good (7) striker
Milivoje Tešanović, Age:27
club: Rudar Vrdnik, country: Srbija
Value: 1 533 500 $, Wage: 21 975 $
average (5) Form, brilliant (14) Tactical discipline
height: 182
injury: (21 days) - was 27 days
formidable (11) stamina, hopeless (1) keeper
brilliant (14) pace, magical (15) defender
magical (15) technique, unearthly (16) playmaker
unearthly (16) passing, adequate (6) striker
Daniele Loffo, Age:27
club: Rudar Vrdnik, country: Italia
Value: 1 893 000 $, Wage: 29 650 $
adequate (6) Form, magical (15) Tactical discipline
height: 181
injury: (11 days)
formidable (11) stamina, average (5) keeper
divine (17) pace, formidable (11) defender
superdivine (18) technique, good (7) playmaker
good (7) passing, divine (17) striker
Svetovit Trinko, Age:27
club: Rudar Vrdnik, country: Slovenija
Value: 1 870 750 $, Wage: 24 700 $
formidable (11) Form, brilliant (14) Tactical discipline
height: 186
formidable (11) stamina, hopeless (1) keeper
superdivine (18) pace, divine (17) defender
incredible (13) technique, excellent (10) playmaker
very good (9) passing, very good (9) striker
there are violations of 25 days for only 3 weeks...
Last season, 14 red cards and 11 injuries
Another season injuries 26
...
I fight for the title. The game will not let me, protects the admins of this game Neura.
Table
injury attacker
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club: Rudar Vrdnik, country: España
Value: 1 972 500 $, Wage: 23 875 $
outstanding (12) Form, incredible (13) Tactical discipline
height: 168
injury: (22 days) - was 34 days
formidable (11) stamina, unsatisfactory (2) keeper
incredible (13) pace, incredible (13) defender
magical (15) technique, divine (17) playmaker
divine (17) passing, good (7) striker
Milivoje Tešanović, Age:27
club: Rudar Vrdnik, country: Srbija
Value: 1 533 500 $, Wage: 21 975 $
average (5) Form, brilliant (14) Tactical discipline
height: 182
injury: (21 days) - was 27 days
formidable (11) stamina, hopeless (1) keeper
brilliant (14) pace, magical (15) defender
magical (15) technique, unearthly (16) playmaker
unearthly (16) passing, adequate (6) striker
Daniele Loffo, Age:27
club: Rudar Vrdnik, country: Italia
Value: 1 893 000 $, Wage: 29 650 $
adequate (6) Form, magical (15) Tactical discipline
height: 181
injury: (11 days)
formidable (11) stamina, average (5) keeper
divine (17) pace, formidable (11) defender
superdivine (18) technique, good (7) playmaker
good (7) passing, divine (17) striker
Svetovit Trinko, Age:27
club: Rudar Vrdnik, country: Slovenija
Value: 1 870 750 $, Wage: 24 700 $
formidable (11) Form, brilliant (14) Tactical discipline
height: 186
formidable (11) stamina, hopeless (1) keeper
superdivine (18) pace, divine (17) defender
incredible (13) technique, excellent (10) playmaker
very good (9) passing, very good (9) striker
there are violations of 25 days for only 3 weeks...
Last season, 14 red cards and 11 injuries
Another season injuries 26
...
I fight for the title. The game will not let me, protects the admins of this game Neura.
Table
injury attacker
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yes, of course, the game is more kind for admins than for other users. I'm the living proof!
I mean yea I feel sorry for you, I really do but can they chance something only for you ? Cause not counting you there must be at least 50 others who got more than 10 injuries in a season for at least 2 seasons in a row.