Subject: much injuries and red cards

that is all right, we would not be discussed now and it would be our one million users, I love this game, and I want it progresses for the better, but more people are leaving this game, I think I should point out that Greg on the right errors games, be it the better and we all

people leave the game from anger because they can not train players from so many injuries and board do not know why someone gets big money for juniors and one gets nothing, these things are very important to them to do and then it will be all over our and more satisfied users of this game

people leave the game from anger because they can not train players from so many injuries

I also posted something about this on the Forum Sokker Linguists. The discussion was about the cornertactic, injuries and cards. And this is what I mean that managers could also do instead of the ongoing whining and complaining, to come with ideas and suggestions in the Forum Bugs / Ideas (en) so the best can be copied and be posted on the test server to show the DEVs ;) It's so easy to whine and complain, to come up with new ideas and suggestions is a lot harder but much more positive.

This is what I posted on the Forum Sokker Linguists to greg:

I was thinking about this. Maybe you can introduce 'Game play' in the match orders, with 3 options how the team must play: 'Careful', 'Normal' and 'Hard'.

If a manager choose:
'Careful' - players will avoid making tackles so they won't get that many cards and also avoid duels for the ball when injuries can happen. Ofcourse this option will also reduce the chance to win duels for the bal and win the match.
'Normal' - just as it is at the moment.
'Hard' - players will play harder so more chance getting cards and more chance to get injuries. But with this option they play more fanatic so there is more chance to win duels for the ball and win the match.

All options should only have effect on your own team, so playing 'Hard' won't give the opponent more cards or more injuries.
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I read it, I'm glad you have ideas, but not to the solution, for example, my cousin took to train goalkeepers, miu injury to both, are annoyed, two buy a new goalkeeper and they are violations, that this option does not help because I do not know how to put goalkeeper to be aggressive or not

I am glad that ... any kind or RL.

Just as the poll in this topic will always give the same result as people always want it to be less, specially those who are often effected by it because of wrong used tactics and/or players. Ofcourse you can ignore this, but as many other managers, I also don't have that many cards and injuries so I'm doing something good or they are doing something wrong as we all have to deal with the same ME ... tell me which of these 2 is it :)

One user here .... simply vote "No." there.

I don't play other online soccer manager games anymore and I also don't know the results of this kind of polls in those other online soccer manager games so I can't tell you the answer. And other online soccer manager games aren't Sokker so no use to compare them as all have their own ME's. Some ME's will be easier, others will be harder. In both cases you have to deal with it and accept it, or not and leave, that's the other option.

So, in fact ... because of its results.

I don't care about the result as it is a false result. You can say it isn't but it is and I also already explained why in another post. My biggest problem with this topic is the ongoing whining and the fact that Kobra 79 already made the same topic in the Forum Sokker Linguists and by that clearly made his point and the DEVs have seen it. And he can even ask access to the test server and start a topic in there so the DEVs can see it again. No need to do it on Forum Sokker International (en).

Also the DEVs have all the real data, and not only the carefully picked out data Kobra 79 is using to make his point, and with that real data the DEVs can see how hard the ME truly is and if it needs to be changed a bit. Insinuating things with the use of carefully picked data to support a point doesn't make it more true, most probably even less true.

And comparing results ... evidence as usual.

The only thing really manipulated is the poll of this topic and the number of voters, as he asked other managers in his country to vote and support his idea. Because of this the result of this post is made even more useless (if you want to mention 'facts').
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The last thing - exactly.I think more votes would be no without that support.

The only thing I can say about that is: shit happens. Luckily those situations are really rare as keepers don't get injured that often, let alone both. I also had it ones in 6+ years of Sokker, both keepers injured, but really a long time ago.

Besides, the rl soccer team you support never had to use the 3th keeper because the 1st and 2nd keeper were injured/suspended? Or any other team in your country you know of? I think you can remember a situation in which it happened at least ones :)
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Just as the poll ... tell me which of these 2 is it :)

It's none of the 2. It's No3 which means that you don't want a change in cards and injuries because you spent 6 years of your sokker life adapting to the current situation and earned yourself a comfortable position close to the top. Now that you are able to amortise cards and injuries, you don't want some newbies who don't know how it's done to have their first 6 years more easier than you did. That's the whole story.

I don't play other ... that's the other option.

That's just simply plain demagogical bullshit and you know it. I would be ashamed if I would be avoiding plain common sense as you did here. Charles, you know that we can compare simmilar games and you know that such a poll would have different results in different online managers. Cut the crap. In MZ e.g. people are more disatisified with not being able to have more than 3 foreign players. That is one of the popular demand issues there. For an obvious reason. Cards and injuries are not. They are an issue here, in sokker. For a reason. Check poll results again.

I don't care ... (if you want to mention 'facts').

Well, I do care about the result and time will tell how it will look as sample gets larger and larger. But I already know it. Older users will say no while new, objective users whose first impression is to compare these frequencies with RL and other games, will say yes. They will come, vote and leave in a few months. There are more users coming and going than you oldies that adapted to this madness are staying. I predict his poll will be very popular and I will bring it up every now and again just to have people voting. Just watch as "Yes" share grows and grows.

Based on what and how frequent devs communicate to users, to me it seems the only information they really know about this game is where plus gets paid. I sincerely doubt they have any idea about how average injuries and cards compare to anything else but to their impressions of how just perfect they are right now. Otherwise they would pull their heads out of sand and reduce them to keep more users.

you the understand in tactics?

Number of users: 463 - Nederland

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You are better than me only in english, because I learned russian language.
please do not mention my tactics,because you have to learn more.


Topics are not tactics, but injuries and red cards.
much evidence there and you are still blind.

Now that you are able to amortise cards and injuries, you don't want some newbies who don't know how it's done to have their first 6 years more easier than you did.

There is a way how to avoid injuries except playing extreme tactics (corner) ? That is a news for me. At most I assumed that high technique strikers get more injuries than others, but other than that I though it's ruled by Mr. Random..

I use to have crazy few seasons with unreal (from my perspective) amount of injuries and cards (I usualy missed 2 players every game for the whole season), but now it came back to normal..I thought it is just a rule of possibility, I can't find any pattern in that change..

you don't want some newbies who don't know how it's done to have their first 6 years more easier than you did. That's the whole story.

Utter BS!! I don't write tutorials and don't be a mentor/tutor to not help new managers get to the top asap! Think before you write such complete nonsense! 1 of my main goals is to get more managers to Sokker, keep them on Sokker and get the total managers of Sokker to go up. And I don't discuss the situation of Sokker when it's possible with greg because I don't want changes or do not care.

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What extra did you do for Sokker till now?

And after this brainless comment, I'm not even going to take the time to answer the other nonsense statements of yours, and specially not because of this childish comment which shows who I really have to deal with: I will bring it up every now and again just to have people voting.

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I was coach of Serbian U21
I now coach of Serbia - without a single defeat

Great. I never joined the elections and I don't spend much time in buying and selling players, which prevents me to get to the top. I spend my time on all the other things I just posted.

u have better players, that is why u are playing in I and charles is playing in III. not because charles is making shitty tactics.

we are not talking about these shitty tactics that make you lose. we are talking about those tactics that make u get more red cards and injuries.


buut in general, It seems to me that the language barrier is turning this conversation into this:



no matter whos side u are watching from.
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I congratulate you!
should have the nerves for it all.
You deserve a better badge.

but I hope that you will not get until you prove this senseless injuries and red cards.

shit, how do I resize pictures:S

anyways, I think this would be a great solution for the problem we seem to have here.

I was thinking about this. Maybe you can introduce 'Game play' in the match orders, with 3 options how the team must play: 'Careful', 'Normal' and 'Hard'.

If a manager choose:
'Careful' - players will avoid making tackles so they won't get that many cards and also avoid duels for the ball when injuries can happen. Ofcourse this option will also reduce the chance to win duels for the bal and win the match.
'Normal' - just as it is at the moment.
'Hard' - players will play harder so more chance getting cards and more chance to get injuries. But with this option they play more fanatic so there is more chance to win duels for the ball and win the match.

All options should only have effect on your own team, so playing 'Hard' won't give the opponent more cards or more injuries.


me myself wouldn´t turn it off from Normal though. but I see some people could really use the careful option.

delete a picture.

back on topic, injuries and red cards - much injuries and red cards ?