Subject: New match engine discussion

Obviously we have that [news] topic, but I feel we need a topic for serious discussion about new match engine as for me, that is the major change for old users.

I still watch matches in 2D cause I'm used to it and I can follow the match better that way.

Here is what I have seen so far from my CC and league matches.

1) More short passes
- I absolutely love this. I'm playing on top level in league where most of teams make 70+ mark and I hated those loooooong passes that go along the ground for like 50-60m across the pitch. That was pure nonsense. You actually needed one 2x18 (pm pass) mid, and one monster winger (3x17+ left side) to be sure you'll get couple of goal opportunities.
When this new thing with 2 tactics was introduced it gave even more chances, as one could put one tactic with wide winger and second with winger in hole between side back and centre back, and just keep switching them every 20minutes. That led to entire polish top league playing with 6 in the back and that is what was going to happen in my league this season, but this changed it in a good way 101%

Second thing that short passes bring is that more players are involved in one attack. So you can see mid giving it back to def, def to defmid, then to one mid, to 2nd mid and then pass the ball into space for attacker. As mentioned above, teams now need to be equally strong on all positions. I'd even prefer some 2x16 def, with high pm and pass now than some 2x18 with 7-8 secondary skills.


2) More chances of dribbling the opponent
Guess this "more passing" thingie will lead to making it harder to get to the goal, so to give more chances to attackers this was needed. This is ok, as even with this modification we had total of only 49 shots in 4 first round matches, that is really not much, compared to old numbers


3) Covering players
Sweet thing that I think prevents those insane trough balls as players now have better chances to intercept. Still, I need more matches to fully undestand how to make this new feature work out the best for me


What are you opinions on new match engine?

I also absolutely love 1 and 3. This makes the game much more realistic and much more multi-dimensional since Defend at all costs and throw the ball to the winger was the dominant tactic.

Initially it seems like a really great and big change

Exactly..

5212 and 532 were dominant tactics and stronger teams were starting to play most of the matches with 6men defline and that was really not only far far away from normal football, but a real pain in the ass to watch :D

The main problem to solve for me is that the covering of the defenders give ATT much less efficient than before... As they are covered, we see too many paasing trhough MID and DEF with no solution...

That is where this new change of increasing dribble chances over defender comes into place.

We will need to find new ways to score goals :D


I had some spare time so I even made small movie with goals from my last match. Trust me, first one was a beauty!

Just check that passing.. Awesome

2 defs, 4 mids and 1att participating there. S W E E T

how many times do I have to watch your game ???

xD

Well you read all possible forums, spammer :D

yea that passing on top level looks nice.At first i thought that overpowered strikers will be shitty but those passes back to defs and tactics without 6 players defending seem to compensate this.

nice goal :)

I still watch matches in 2D cause I'm used to it and I can follow the match better that way.

same ^_^


this passing thingie is ok, but think about the small teams from low divisions, they have weak players, their games must be pretty boring. I also have a weak team currently, but I don't watch my league matches so no idea how they are :))
But I looked at the commentary for my cup match, and there was only one comment from the beginning of second half til the beginning of penalty kicks, so 75 mins :))

but think about the small teams from low divisions, they have weak players, their games must be pretty boring.

Yeah, I don't know much about how will this affect weak teams :/

But I like what it's doing for us, good teams ;)

It is obvious that now we will see such really goals but it already happened in the past with very good teams having strong MIDs.
The problem with your goal is that it is only luck... You could spend all the match without having the "hole" in the opponent Defense even having checked every line of your opponent.

For info, i also use the 2D right now to see my poor tactic used on last sunday.

The problem with your goal is that it is only luck...

I actually had one almost the same action and couple more great plays. Even 3rd goal was few nice passes connected :)

nice one :) I love the changes as well, I always preffered more balanaced team and those changes are making it work for me!

I am wondering though what happened with assists after this update - I can see that you have got no assists counted as well, is this a known bug? I need to see more games to be sure.

3) Covering players
Sweet thing that I think prevents those insane trough balls as players now have better chances to intercept. Still, I need more matches to fully undestand how to make this new feature work out the best for me

I hate it...it makes the tactic less meaningful for the outcome of the game...

Why? Now we will have to make new tactics.
Finally those winger tactics are not useful as they were.