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Subject: New match engine discussion

2013-03-03 13:18:41
greg makes one engine for all, not one for you, one for opponent.

still, do you think that it's a good engine when after winning a game you don't feel fully satisfied because you see that the same tactic and players act totally different in two games, so it's mostly up to random draw, not up to your tactics? :)

in equal league one season you can be the champion and in another one you can fight to avoid relegation...
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2013-03-03 13:35:36
Maybe is not the better engine, but much better is, than the previous.
2013-03-03 13:48:55
I don't think so, the previous one was more sensible

there were no such situations as central midfielder dribbling pas 3 central defenders, in form, with superdivine defender skill

now there is too much random, the tackle/dribble thingie has been screwed up...
2013-03-03 13:50:15
Most of you say"we wanna get back the older engine",why?Because was more easy to win the matches with a good keeper+a good winger+ a good striker+5 defs,approximatelly 80% victory.
Now is not enough, you gonna have more good players, with multiple high skils and really good tactics to win, not just one winger tactic with 5-3-2 or 5-4-1.


It's funny your comment.

Because was more easy to win the matches with a good keeper+a good winger+ a good striker+5 defs,approximatelly 80% victory

It's obvious. I have seen with this engine, my 3x superdivine winger can't go ahead when a 2x unearthly defender come back him and steal, while in the other side of the field a magical tech winger go ahead when he crash of front to my 2x superdivine (divine form).

One famous spanish manager told me: "then, buy weak players". Ok. done. I'm on II division with a weak team, most of the players lack of stamina, my keeper is divine pace - incredible keeper and he seems to be Iker Casillas in the final of the Champions Cup against Bayern Leverkusen. i'm winning matches. probably will do a super season for my players and I'll drop division with an awful match.

Now is not enough, you gonna have more good players, with multiple high skils and really good tactics to win, not just one winger tactic with 5-3-2 or 5-4-1.

Well, I can say very much about this. Before stay on first division of my country and won 6 consecutive titles and one cup, I have played with a really worse team in III and IV division (arround 5 years average age team less than my rivals). Doing great tactics I could go up to II division and then I made my great team. In first season on first division I did tactics for all the matches and I won all the matches of the league, by far... the next seasons I was lazy and played with almost the same tactic and then I obviously lost some matches and get difficoult wins. Really I had arround 5-10 average mark teams over my rivals. It was easy.

In CCC, I've played with 4 defenders and win, and played with 5 defenders and lose. Played with winger and lose, played without winger and win. I have many remembered matches. But never, I say never, win or lose, I would say this is totally unfair. Maybe I had some luck, other times the other had some luck, but was a reasonable and logic match.

This engine makes no sense in very much many number of matches. I don't say in all, but it's very huge random here.
2013-03-03 13:55:50
I forget, 3 matches I have win this season, 3 with the same tactic. Do I have the philosopher's sokker stone?
2013-03-03 14:33:29
I admit the fact, there are to much surprises now here. I meet-it some weaker teams on my championship group, winning with real difficulty, where my players has unrecognized:forgetting to make good passes, technical moves and scoring like on the past.Is much difficult, but is still a playable game.
If should be a game where you pops up your team too easy, and win every match where youre the favourite,you will be bored to wanna play it.A men gonna be men, to get trough all difficulties, not a crying child.This game is not for kids anymore.

But we gonna never forget:is just a game.
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2013-03-03 14:41:19
I agree with Borkos, Crameren and Mourinho.. This engine is by far worse then the previous one. It's true that this engine has some nice improvements aswell because wingers were indeed a bit too dominant IF not covered properly.. So to prevent this, many played with 5 defs.. So ok they changed some things so you can have more freedom in making a tactic since you don't need to worry about wingers as much as before. These kind of changes are ok imo, even good but on the other side they obviously messed with the basics of the game.. Players behave totally different then before.. Before it was more LOGICAL.. and a game like this needs to be logical because you can predict the outcome of a game if you're smart.. Let's say you scout your opponent and you know how he will be playing. Before you could make a tactic that was almost a guaranteed win if done well and the opponent didn't change his tactic.. Now it doesn't matter if you've made the perfect tactic for that particular opponent because you just can't count on your players anymore. A superdivine def in magical + form should steal the ball from a slow striker that lacks technique.. Now everytime your defender tackles, you have to pray he steals the ball since even strikers with 300k value can dribble your divine defs.. It might not happen all the time but more so then before.. So how can you make a decent tactic now if you can't even count on your best defender to intercept the ball from his worst striker.. or you can't count on your winger to make the crosses he has all the time in the world for..

Anyway.. I'm waiting for another new ME.. maybe that one will make some sense again.
2013-03-03 14:49:25
:D

Same tactic both, same players both last week. well, his best striker injured in min. 16. Funny.
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2013-03-03 14:53:54
I waiting too a new engine.Maybe will be more better to all.And we stop to spamm every topic with crying week by week:)
2013-03-03 15:09:23
crying week by week:)

this is what do you think. People like me are not criying. I won my last title on spanish first division with that engine, and then sell all my players. I was not thinking about cry for win...
2013-03-03 15:27:40
I have a feeling that greg plays every week with ME. I guess He tries to adjust something. I dont believe that he doesnt touch anything. Every week different scenarios. ME is like a women you dont dont how to handle
2013-03-03 15:31:03
To much protesters, to much sad people on the forums influencing negativelly the new users, some of us keep advertising here other games.Why?Cause actually some users wanna see the sokker dying.
So everywhere that users write long pages with the game bugs to make others leaving this game.

Playing is free, leaving it on silence is free too, but dont make others to leave the game just because of your and others influence.I am a promoter, i dont like to see everywhere this new methode to blame this game and waiting for his end.
2013-03-03 15:37:12
Indeed.
2013-03-03 15:51:06
We're not waiting for the end, we hope for a revival...that's the point...
2013-03-03 16:05:55
Cause actually some users wanna see the sokker dying.

don't think so. I think the customers want a good service, customers are the most important for the company. I'll never buy a thing of a company if his customers talk bad about his product. It's simple. Customers, and great old and experienced, says that the game is going in the wrong way. I want my entertainment back. If greg didn't do so, I can say my opinion here. You can like it or disagree, but I am on my right. Greg is free for develope the game in his own Scattergories, and customers are free for say his opinion. Why am I have to leave the game in silence? I have pay arround 3 years of plus for this shit, and I want my money back or I will keep to say my opinion here. Obiously my money can't come back, and obiously I'll keep saying my opinion here.

Do you like the game? OK. Enjoy it. But don't say me to leave the game in silence or don't cry because I don't want to leave this game, I don't want to keep silence and of course I'm not criying for lose a game because is only a game, and indeed I have many titles.
2013-03-03 16:12:06
Yes, i know, you and some others.But i am now sure, there are a litle part of users who really want to see the end of the game, maybe to increase other manager game user number.And you helps them with your protests.The thread of Bugs/Ideas is enough for users to write about sokker's bad things.We, i, Charles and some other officials will get everytime that bugs and ideas to official forums,(we dont could make more) but please dont write them everywhere.