Subject: New match engine discussion

I'm not dealing with anything anymore, I stopped caring about a year ago. Not fun anymore, I'm here only cause of training.

you should not play 5 defs in this match..:)

you're dealing with try to confuse and chase away people who don't care so much the game like you, because you obviously don't understand very much of this game although you pass long time in front of the PC looking this game

The hell are you talking about? firstly I played with 5 defs cause I don't care about the results anymore, I don't even have 1 real mid. It was just a joke that I lost, such match happens and should happen, I don't have anything to complain about I just answered that guy with familiar result. I'm not trying to chase away people from this game and I stopped caring only because of bugs from 1990 never getting fixed. I'm tired of that already. I almost don't write in forums anymore so how can I scare others away? There is nothing else to do, it's finished. Nothing will help, not buying plus will not help. If others want to waste money it's fine with me. I understood the game when I wanted, now I'm not trying to.

From what I understand, most users here want to convince us that black is white.
But the worst thing is that those people who have to care about the game, they don't do this.
They do not working to improve their game.
Yes I agree with everyone that can occur a bad result in teams that are better than their opponents, but when this is happened continuously, this means that it is something wrong with the match engine.

but when this is happened continuously, this means that it is something wrong with the match engine

blaming engine? its about tactic and your players, if it doesnt work, youre doing probably something wrong...

so tell me, what did i do bad in this match????

http://online.sokker.org/comment/matchID/26192652

i have 5xdivine def with min 15 pace and have too secondary skills and played like total drank idiots.
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That's because your opponent used his midfielders to attack and you used a high defense line, so the ration was something like 5 attackers vs 4 defenders. We all know that a midfielder with a high level of defender, will never have the same power of tackling as a player with DEF orders, so they mostly mess up your defense line if you keep them too close to the offside trap, because your defenders won't have where to pass in some situations.

Since I don't have plus to see your match in details, I do belive that most of the goals were created from long passes over your defense line and the opponent's strikers just collected the ball or they tackled your defenders. I expected to see even some red cards there.

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seems a high result in any case, surely you deserved lose anyway. looking at tactic draw, the other seeems a counter tactic against yours, moreover when your only striker got slightly injured (don't know the minute). As I say high result but sure deserved victory, sometimes happens when you can't give back the shock

What are you talking about, people: 11 shots vs 11 shots, match ends 8-0, of course it's an absurd score! Whatever mistakes he may have made, they didn't translate into more options to his opponent, so that is not the point.

The point is that those crazy matches do occur and will continue to occur in simulations like this one, but cherry-picked examples don't prove the absolutely false claim that "this is happened continuously". This game is computer-like enough in that the obvious things tend to happen, that is, the team with the most chances wins most of the times, and matches with similar opportunities end up in draws or marginal victories most of the times. And most of the times means most of the times, not always. The examples from the (vast) minority of matches escaping the obvious pattern just prove the same (that most of the times doesn't mean always), and in no way prove that illogical results happen "continously".
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What are you talking about, people: 11 shots vs 11 shots, match ends 8-0, of course it's an absurd score!

What's so weird about it?

Take this example:

Bankai ICBT - Amschel Mayer de Rothschild 5:0

Bankai ICBT Amschel Mayer de Rothschild
pantera Tactics *∆*
46% Possession 54%
52% Play in the half 48%
12 Shots 8

Amschel Mayer de Rothschild - Viitorul Rapid 1:2
Amschel Mayer de Rothschild Viitorul Rapid
_∆_ Tactics inter
54% Possession 46%
31% Play in the half 69%
18 Shots 4

it's the right score, since I played with midfielders as ATT and etc.

But the thing is that it doesn't matter how many chances you have, it never mattered. It's about the situation/angle/options.
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exactly

Poland had lots of shots in last NT game, but most of them were harmless headers of striker from ~11 meter, while being covered by 2-4 defenders (lowers the scoring ratio)

i turn off match after 3 penalties...

and then, go fishing? :DD

look match and watch player Hrazdil. He is mid, with striker

he scored in this match 7 times

he has 13 att and 15 tech...

and vs my keeper

Juraj Sučević, Age:31
club: Raptor, country: Hrvatska
Value: 3 775 250 $, Wage: 45 300 $
divine (17) Form, unearthly (16) Tactical discipline
height: 178

formidable (11) stamina, divine (17) keeper
divine (17) pace, solid (8) defender
good (7) technique, solid (8) playmaker
formidable (11) passing, adequate (6) striker


my striker has 15+ strieker and have problem score...

and he has 15 def and my def could not stop him

Ulrik Csorba, Age:33
club: Raptor, country: Magyarország
Value: 1 546 000 $, Wage: 17 525 $
unearthly (16) Form, divine (17) Tactical discipline
height: 177

formidable (11) stamina, tragic (0) keeper
magical (15) pace, divine (17) defender
outstanding (12) technique, excellent (10) playmaker
formidable (11) passing, adequate (6) striker


Kosta Drakulić, Age:30
club: Raptor, country: Bosna i Hercegovina
Value: 1 581 500 $, Wage: 22 800 $
very good (9) Form, brilliant (14) Tactical discipline
height: 184

formidable (11) stamina, hopeless (1) keeper
divine (17) pace, superdivine (18) defender
formidable (11) technique, formidable (11) playmaker
very good (9) passing, solid (8) striker

Marcel Ficzko, Age:29
club: Raptor, country: Slovensko
Value: 1 981 750 $, Wage: 26 400 $
outstanding (12) Form, magical (15) Tactical discipline
height: 179

formidable (11) stamina, tragic (0) keeper
divine (17) pace, divine (17) defender
brilliant (14) technique, formidable (11) playmaker
adequate (6) passing, excellent (10) striker


Dosca Apostolescu, Age:32
club: Raptor, country: România
Value: 1 031 000 $, Wage: 20 600 $
unsatisfactory (2) Form, divine (17) Tactical discipline
height: 178

formidable (11) stamina, hopeless (1) keeper
unearthly (16) pace, divine (17) defender
excellent (10) technique, very good (9) playmaker
formidable (11) passing, good (7) striker


i am thinking, that my def are really good for stop att with 15 tech :)