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Subject: New match engine discussion

2014-08-12 00:36:52
Don't take it personally jezo, it's not directed just at you, but people who whine and complain and don't see the big picture in general..
2014-08-12 07:00:27
adaca to jezo
The ME is random, but in Denmark we had the same champion for 13 seasons in row... ofc...
2014-08-12 07:29:57
+1

Its not clicking game like hattrick, but some people can't still understand it...
2014-08-12 09:24:24
jezo to adaca
we had same champion lot of season too. Nick rybar 24, but he got ban :). I do not know why.:D
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2014-08-12 09:43:33
I do not care about this result. i will lost lot of matches yet. But this match was kick to balls, but it happened in real life too. I played with same opponent lot of matches and almost won. With same tactic vs same opponent won Slovak cup 2:6 so this time was fail engine for my side like Brazil vs Germany.

When i saw this topik new match engine discussion, so i showed my first match in season, but i do not have problem. One lost, next win :)

I will set same tactic in next rematch and what will happen?
2014-08-12 10:18:23
jezo to jezo
i played lot of good, bad matches but few matches will be remember still like this one :)

http://online.sokker.org/comment/matchID/15163834



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2014-08-12 10:18:42
The thing is that there are many variables, such as the pitch condition, weather condition, pitch length / width, players form, players subskills, players tactical discipline. It's almost imposible to reproduce the same result if you don't have all these values unmodified.
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2014-08-12 10:36:55
take a look on these matches. Yeah he's a bot I'm weak.

1. http://online.sokker.org/comment/matchID/22325508
2. http://online.sokker.org/comment/matchID/22325509
3. http://online.sokker.org/comment/matchID/23275099

too many shoots, and too many "undeserved" matches. Well f* engine... or not. I started to think about it and maybe the reason was I'm not playing in the correct way. I got a better team for last match against him but the performance was so different when I played to him in other way:

4. http://online.sokker.org/comment/matchID/23275100
2014-12-03 22:25:11
Match today, shots 15x0, result 0x1. Doesn't even remind of real soccer simulation. No surprise the game is dying.
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2014-12-03 23:10:27
Well, this rl match 0-0, at the World Cup :/ about the same stats as your match (15-3), 1 lucky goal and it was the same result as your Sokker match. It happens in rl a lot of times, enough examples.

http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/matches/round=255953/match=300186488/statistics.html
2014-12-03 23:56:21
Take Bayern - Chelsea CL final or even Spain - Switzerland at 2010 WC :p
2014-12-04 23:27:05
Alright, you might findo some games in history like that. But I have seen a game in wich a lighting strike injuried at least 14 players, and there is a video to prove that. Would you like it to be simulated?

Same reason, this is crap simulation, no one like to loose 15x0, or even win 0x15. Win 0x15 is crap like loose 15x0. No value, just crap, a waste of time. You might like, but you might end up playing it alone.
2014-12-04 23:33:00
It sometimes happen, that's just how it is. And yes, it is shit when it happens to you, but when you win a match like that you will be happy you won ;)
2014-12-04 23:45:56
No I won't. I don't like this. It's crap for me. And it seems for most of people who is leaving and all that already left.
2014-12-05 00:12:46
Maybe for you it's different, but most people complaining are the ones who lost a match, but they never complain when they win.

And I don't think those few extreme match results are the reason why most people have left. If you look at the % extreme results it's not something to worry about.

EDIT: what I think is worse for Sokker and why many have left, is posts like yours claiming something is wrong while there really isn't a problem at all if you look at the % of extreme match results. Many managers have posted these kind of posts based on feelings after they lost a match, and not based on real facts.

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2014-12-05 04:00:22
You don't get it. You think there is no problem. People who posts like me think there is. Who is right?