Subject: New match engine discussion

Don't know if those are really run and launch bugs, like standing still while they should run. But have posted them in the run and launch bug topic on the test server so the DEVs can take a look.

Man, you are really piece of something. Truly.

What do you mean?

It's not about bugs per se, but about players' behaviour that just doesn't look realistic at all.

Maybe start a topic about this on the Forum Bugs / Ideas (en) so I can copy some different examples to post these on the test server to show the DEVs?

Piece of something often means something bad but I think he meant the good way

It's not about bugs per se, but about players' behaviour that just doesn't look realistic at all.

Imho it is realistic and nice now :-)
Kick lama players and buy better and enjoy it :-)

Yes, this makes perfect sense. Dont know what makes most sense; the pass not going to the totally uncovered striker, or the way the pass is given to the other midfielder or the way he plays it back to the free kick taker.

classic

I was planning to fight for promotion this season, but my strikers behave like total idiots with MID orders so it's almost impossible to win...they make stupid backpasses all the time...

so..... everybody is crying about strikers and MIDs.... but I am happy last months that this engine is finally the best one and all movement and passing is more logical....

OK, I am watching my matches, not yours...sorry :-)
But... can it be engine mistake if I am happy and others not ???? ;-)

i really dont see nothing bad in that video....... first..your mid was not able to pass, enemy catch him sonner and out passing was made ok, you dont have there better player to pass.

Fyi: it's my striker who is fouled. Of course he doesn't pass, thats not his job. The 'issue' is the free kick: who gets the ball (not the most logic option), how he gets the ball (header for 10m ball??) and how that receiver handled it (Yes, Boffin cost 11.7M euro, I guess he indeed has too crappy skills to pass a ball back, my mistake).
Besides, this was just one example. Similar and other 'retarded' situations happen in almost every match.

well, free kicks are still a joke, no improvements at all,
tackling from behind are too easy, divine tech players with high form? should be much harder to tackle them

If it's just 1 mistake (like your example of that free kick) during a match, or even 2 or 3, in my eyes that's not a problem as these things can happen. The goal of the new ME was to make matches more realistic and during rl matches dumb things also happen, it's not all without mistakes or strange choices.

not that dumb things and not that often

Well .... I have seen many strange things during matches, and much worse as that example of the free kick :S If I look at the rl match of yesterday ajax-FC Utrecht, or any other match, I think I don't have enough fingers on my hands to count all things during 1 match managers in Sokker would point out as not acceptable ;/

Another thing I don't like about the new engine is that is has become very difficult to play against a high defensive line because a)the mids will make even more useless sideways and back passes and b)it's almost easier to tackle a striker from behind than from the front. Against a slightly stronger opponent who plays a high defense there's basically no chance to keep the game at least close, no matter what tactics you use.