Subject: New match engine discussion

Another thing I don't like about the new engine is that is has become very difficult to play against a high defensive line because a)the mids will make even more useless sideways and back passes and b)it's almost easier to tackle a striker from behind than from the front. Against a slightly stronger opponent who plays a high defense there's basically no chance to keep the game at least close, no matter what tactics you use.

Indeed. Mids are set to avoid offside passes, so they tend to pass backwards instead.
From this season on, it seems like winger crossings are dangerous again.

@ Charles Hill, it means that you are different. Not good nor bad, imho.

sokker is and was never meant to be realistic. It just should be a nice game where you enjoy watching a match, not get "frustrated" or "irritated"

So true. I was comparing to last season's ME, so new tactics needed.

Since Sokker became more "realistic", I have been abusing the fast forward button as never before :P
Actually, before the changes I only very rarely touched the fast forward button in official matches. Now I just have to, even when I'm winning, because otherwise my eyes want stop crying. Sad but true...

And borkos007: I too face the excruciating pain of watching my strikers with MID order. Their "irratic passing of the hot potato"-game also annoys me to death. Apparently strikers with brilliant PM and unearthly passing is not enough to make sensible decisions..

I'd beg to differ here. I´m pretty satisfied with the behaviour of my MID strikers. yes, sometimes they tend to overplay in the enemy box(3+ passes in 16m box usually fucks up the situation). but I don´t really see any retarded decisions from my strikers.

got exact freekick situation again, same issue :) Now ball went out at backline because of poor quality :p But again wrong player (logic) and at header height

You may beg to differ, but I will still stand on my counter-differing. I have not been satisfied after a single match lately. If I had enough sparetime on my hands, I would gladly make videos of all the retarded decisions by my MID order strikers in thi seasons matches. Backpassing in the penalty area with only the goalkeeper ahead, trying to lob the ball to the other striker even though the other striker is solidly covered and even though theres a clear shot opportunity on goal, passing the ball back even though theres a clear gap in the defense ahead and a golden opportunity to make a dash forward towards the goal. Those are just the most obvious.

There is a difference between strikers according to skills, thats right. Those with high level ( > brilliant) passing/playmaking makes more accurate stupid retarded decisions, while those without, makes less accurate stupid retarded decisions. PM doesn't seem to make players more intelligent, only "faster decision makers".

I just saw a 50m backpass from 12pm16pass player today from 16m box. started laughing out loud.. in a library..

but I will still stand on my counter-counter-differing. though actually, maybe I don´t see this as a problem cause of my tactics. I have an offmid not too far behind from strikers and also a player on the wing. so maybe if my players try to fuck up situations, they just pass the ball to mt offmid or winger, so despite of trying to fuck up, it looks like a nice combination play.

though dunno.. maybe a solution on ur case would be to play strikers with ATT order :P

today motor is close.

Nippon U21 - Daehan Minguk U21
Nippon U21: matlang
Daehan Minguk U21: olex
Competição: Friendly
Começa em: 2012-10-12 12:30

when will the devs stop making experiments with this game?...where are the moments when everything was fine and sokker was such a pleasant game to play?...now, everything became so dark that we have to make really big efforts to continue playing this game...:(

sry for being critical, but

... when everything was fine and sokker was such a pleasant game to play?...

based on my 7 years of experience in sokker forums; I have no fucking idea what are you taklin´ about bro. and

now, everything became so dark that we have to make really big efforts to continue playing this game...:(

based on my experience, this sentence has been running on replay since 2005/12/22.

I've been playing sokker for almost 6 years, so I know what I'm talking about....nowadays sokker has changed....it became worse and worse...starting with junior school, engine changes and so on....ask whoever you want....ask them the following question: what would you choose: the nowadays sokker or the sokker game we used to play 3-4 years ago....

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well my honest oppinion is that sokker has been fine and a pleasant game to play for almost 7 years in a row now. I definitely cannot say that it has become any worse, nor can I say it has become much better or something. I like the new junior school and the fact that you can set prices on your stadium. also I like that there are less injuries and red cards (at least I haven´t seen pakosteve on sokker interntational for quite a while). as far as game engine goes, I couldn´t care more or less whether it would be the engine from 3-4 years ago or todays engine.(exept the too many red cards in one match issue from the old engine)

but actually what I meant with my

based on my 7 years of experience in sokker forums

is that for 7 years in a row, there has always been someone complaining that "it´s hard to continue, because ME is shit", "new updates are shit", "I´m gonna quit because sokker has gone so bad" etc. so this season´s sokker is no different. every season, every month, every week somebody has been saying that they are gonna quit cause sokker has gone from the best game ever to sokker sux. but the reality is that this has never happened. sokker has never gone from good to bad. sokker is the same shit it was 7 years ago. sokker has so low amount of users, because it hasn´t changed. its the same old sokker. maybe the new 3D gives some hope for the future, but I must say, I haven`t watched a single match in the current 3D myself. I like the old one :p