Subject: »NEWS PROMO CONTEST: WIN 1 YEAR PLUS

Exactly "valid". How you can determine what posts are valid?
Only those which get clicked. But that can be faked to.
So the new rule should be. "That user who brings the most registrations trough the posts will win"

To be honest it's a bad moment for promotion campaign...

ok, the euro is a great opportunity, the idea of match simulation is great for it

but with current engine sokker looks rather boring and random...all those bumps on badly prepared pitches, amazingly weak shots...I wouldn't call that entertaining

Exactly "valid". How you can determine what posts are valid?

Greg set rules. For example, not valid in low page range (few visitors). One link per topic's match is counted. You can post in the same site, but diferent topics.

So the new rule should be. "That user who brings the most registrations trough the posts will win"

well, now by now, not enough users posting, so if you get at least ten valid links you win. Remember 10 most active users win

but with current engine sokker looks rather boring and random...all those bumps on badly prepared pitches, amazingly weak shots...I wouldn't call that entertaining

Wrong topic. We don't need negative feedback. We are trying to promote.

Constructive criticism is a positive feedback.

Constructive criticism is a positive feedback.

Constructive, yes.
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I suppose suggesting that the national teams shouldn't play on the worst pitch is constructive :-)

I suppose suggesting that the national teams shouldn't play on the worst pitch is constructive :-)

But, do you really think here is the rigth topic? I don't. And what then?, don't promote sokker anymore...

Let's go.

Links for today, 2012-06-16

http://online.sokker.org/?match=20127127/Česká republika-Polska or http://online.sokker.org/?match=20127127/%C4%8Cesk%C3%A1%20republika-Polska

http://online.sokker.org/?match=20127128/Hellas-Rossiya

Any comment directly related with this thread, which, on the other side, is in the SOKKER FORUM (and not in the 'Euro Sim' forum), should be valid, more indeed since it is an open forum, neither restricted to 'promotors' (e.g., a news which a text such as 'send privately your links to...' could have been used), nor with nazi-directives stated about what or what not can posted.

In addition, a very important issue has to be considered: the fact that this 'promotion' could result being more negative for Sokker than otherwise. SO, our contribution to promote Sokker could be precissely to comment on this 'promotion', in any way useful, in this same thread.

In respect to this 'promo contest':

- it is perverse, apart from outrageous and an insulting towards (our) intelligence, to pretend to be 'promoting Sokker', the game we have been playing for a lot of years, by using and showing this 'Eurosim', a recent and more-then-discussable personal invention of some dev, which is not part of Sokker (they share the match viewer and maybe the player dinamics, but nothing more).

- so, it is FALSE the info what is would be transmitted to potential new users which suppossedly this bait (or 'promotion') is directed at. Sokker IS NOT the 'Eurosim', and whoever can be made to believe so and be attracted to the game this way, could find that he had been purposedly deceived and manipulated, so in the end this promotion would be contraproducent (more harmful to Sokker indeed). As soon as a new user start to read our forums, thye will see where really they have arrived.

- its result could be also negative not only regarding new users, but the currect ones, as this 'promotion' is another constatation that eems to confirm that devs are really only concerned in justifying their 'Eurosim', trying to 'sell' it to us now as a means of 'promoting of Sokker', when [/u]at the same time[/u] they were 'promoting' it, the status of Sokker (what suppossedly was the promoted thing) has nearly become a ruin by their lack of prevision, commitment, interest and respect towards the users, by releasing things bad done AND without testing, perhaps for lack of time, all of it consumed by the Eurosim, as we all can guess (e.g., why, if not, 'Eurosim' stadiums are perfect, and NT SOkker ones continue -yet, without any fixing in weeks- being a ruin?).

- also, it would be not very possitive to achieve the association 'Sokker'='spam site'. By making the indiscriminated spam of sites and forums the warhorse of this 'promotion', the image which is offered of the game as an 'invasive ad' sponsor could be be not good, if the result is Sokker resulting too annoying for others, and being labeled in webs, searchers, etc. as such (and this this also applies to the 'promoters': if they use a fixed IP...). Also, when the motivation to make such spam is not voluntarism, but ecomomically incentivated (99 PLN valued), then any amateur or uninterested justification fo such behaviors dissapears (also, 'promoters' could also mature some day and get disenchanted with Sokker, when they finally understand that in reality they have been manipulated and 'used' as one of many spammers working for free (pluses means no cost to the 'organizers').

- to end, only remark that maybe one the best ways to promote Sokker is making it better, by means of the community making the devs to hear about all the bad things to fix, possible enhancements to make, and good ideas to consider. Of course, this needs a cunterpart, which is devs to be willing, and at least wanting to hear any of this. So, any oportunity, any place, and any (legitim, as this one) thread will be the best (and maybe the only) form of trying the finally can hear something of their users, users that, by the way, not need propmtios, as WE ALREADY ARE HERE! (and remain, though it could seem that devs intention is we users to flee Sokker forever -is that so?)


I hope my contribution to promoting Sokker (not to this so-called 'promotion') can be useful. All for the best of Sokker (which is not the 'Eurosim', I must insist) ;)

nazi-directives

Stoped reading here.

I am regulary posting links to sokker but with notice: "if you decide registrate please use my nick as a man who invite you, my is "rumpil". ". If I can join this sentence also with link to uefa I can post next links here, otherwise I will rather post for reffereals only as I do always. So?

Kemk, look on this ! :-DDD


Results and difference is visible just after few hours. I spam today next 7-10 links (not posted here, doesnt matter).
But just for match with Czech rep.

And look on result !(that stats I was talking about :-))

This is page without my spamming:


This is page, with my spam. Just after few hours :-D!



Nice result, am I right ?

But this is not everything about propagation. You can post millions pages and you will get here 10% of people watching it and just 1-5% of people will stay here playing active !!
Much better system is when more people post information about sokker on their favorite places, where people know him. For example, I posted info about sokker few years ago on one small private tracker (just about 100-300 people, 10% active) and I have got here 2 active players, also plus users :-). Just cos they know me and if I told them that sokker is really the best game they believe me. you can make post link on big facebook (some sokker pages) and you will not get users, cos they dont know you so they are lazy to click or they just click but if they dont have some friend here, they will stop playing very fast.
So much better way how to attract people is not big massive spam, but small spam on special sites of every user here, but I know that people are lazy :-(.
If everybody posted just 5 links by year ! on sites where people know him, we will get here much more players then summary of 10 promo actions :-).

But reward for referral is useless, too small, I was never doing this cos reward, just cos my country can get more people playing. Maybe greg should make some significant reward but just for active ref users - users from reflinks who is playing more than 6 month maybe :-). This could really help persuade more people to find just 2-5 his own friends for this game.

sorry for spam :-D I have spam day today :-)

Nice info and nice results, it seems.
I usually post links just to promote sokker, but I don't know if those links are usefull to apply new users. Anyway, I don't do promotion for reward, but for this great game.
Now is different, is a concret promo campaign and I want to help. :))

moved
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my plus till: 2013-03-03 00:00
But I really dont remember when I bought plus last time, it had to be in very past time :-).

So, sokker users, make a spam for free plus, GO ON !!!