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Subject: »Do you like the new ME?

2012-06-24 20:29:20
ok ,there some people that just dont get it,no problem,always will be like this,and i do not think that they will ever understand,all i hope is that devs listen what some of us say in here,managers like crameren,uamini,aaalin ,mourinho said things precise and objective.

So ,please devs listen to them!!!!
2012-06-24 20:35:34
Different ppl, different opinions.
2012-06-24 20:49:14
We are not devs.So, we just could have an oppinion pro or against this engine, but really we don't could change-it anymore.Is not important what we say here, is important what they make with this game.

2012-06-24 20:51:44
did you see Johnson now? when this isn't a goal in sokker you go mad :D and this is EURO ! :D

it is not only at you I-zsolt ;-)
2012-06-24 22:00:51
I hated new ME completey. Match today: Ball in each side 82% x 18%. Shots 15 x 2. Score: 0x0.

Conclusion: this ME seems to be done by a 4 year old creator. It's too stupid. I'm sorry, but it just can't be taken serious that such mistake is done like that.

Anyway, i hope it's fixed soon. I will not play very long such stupid ME.
2012-06-24 22:20:41
Yeah, i already finish watching my todays game. It was a great match, i felt the emotion in the end like in the old days, when i was fascinated by sokker. I think this change is the best for many years. Of course the engine is not perfect and never will, because it's impossible, but it certainly will be more and more improved.

I did not believe that one day i say this, but- good job dev's
2012-06-24 22:22:27
Once again, 5 def lines WASN'T the only solution to win on top level. It WAS possible to beat and win with a 4 def line - just had to be a little creative with your mids positioning then - but I guess that was to hard to figure out for many. I and others have proven that offensive 4 line tactics were not only competitive in the old ME, but also winning strategies.

I remember another example of a top top level match only 3 seasons ago. It was the first time I played in the CC final. Both me and my opponent, FC Red Card, played the tournament with a 4 DEF line - and also both teams did so in the very final match. After 120 min. the score was 6-6 and ended 8-9 to Red Card after penalties. See the match (link: 17137557) and say that this isn't entertainment. If we replay the match now with new ME, our great midfielders will proberly be more bussy ping-ponging the ball in pointless directions while looking like simpletons, our great strikers will be covered regardless of time spent analysing opponent and when they do get the chance they will send the ball anywhere but in the net, and the match will probably end 1-0 or 0-0 and replace sleeping pills (yes, I'm being intentionally negative). So the score is closer to reality and so what, I never asked for realistic results - just an entertaining tactical management game.
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2012-06-24 22:45:21
where is the pleasure now when I see my match. Dev's Are You forgotten that it is a game where we must have pleasure to play... I like goal so I want to see many goals, that is football
2012-06-24 22:58:16
If you would read some more topics you would know why it wasn't tested enough, blame the staff member of your country who have access to the test server but aren't active on it and didn't gave enough feed back in the last testing fase of the 3D viewer. And why it's implemented and still being tweaked during the season is in the news article you can also read yourself.

And ofcourse has every manager the right to be pissed of about changes, but I'm not. I'm happy things are finally changing as many many managers have asked for so many seasons. But ofcourse some are happy and others are not, always the same in Sokker. There are always people complaining about something, even when it's eventually for the best of the game.

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2012-06-24 23:04:12
Why not just tell us in advance that "dear managers - especially old ones - from summer 2012 we will introduce an entirely new and radically different engine to put some spark of life into this game and make it more easy/possible for newcomers to achieve good results within reasonable time. We think that managers will become too angry if we just reset the game, (I left this nonsense part out)

I tried to tell this to greg to, communicate with us so we can prepare the managers with some news article a few weeks in advandge something is going to happen. But communication is not the strongest part of the DEVs (most friendly said as I can). First they implement it and then we get the news article to translate and post on the front page, hours later after implementing all new things :S
So I fully agree with you about the communication part, but unfortunatly I can't make the DEVs change this behaviour. I do my best to let them see this has to change, but if they do it is up to them. You are a mod so you must know how their communication skills are ;/

And for the not good enough tested part, see my post above this post :)

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2012-06-24 23:15:47
I like goal so I want to see many goals, that is football

No, thats what you want is ice hockey...
2012-06-24 23:26:09
http://online.sokker.org/comment.php?matchID=19375233


look at his match :) with the new ME
2012-06-24 23:31:42
week tactic, or something like that!:)
2012-06-24 23:44:33
The most frequent response: bad tactic!!! :)
2012-06-24 23:53:17
Yeah sure :-)

Look at this player :

Max Neveu, age: 28

club: Apophis Team, country: France,
value: 2 086 250 €, wage: 29 150 €,
excellent [10] form, incredible [13] tactical discipline,
height: 168 cm, ·weight: 71.1543 kg
bookings:
NTDB:
formidable [11] stamina hopeless [1] keeper
superdivine [17] pace superdivine [17] defender
magical [15] technique very good [9] playmaker
excellent [10] passing very good [9] striker

Well, just because of bad tactic of the opponent, this player made one shot as winger and managed to score !!

Let's go to the party now !!
2012-06-24 23:53:26
weak user