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Subject: »Do you like the new ME?

2012-10-21 20:13:49
Look, 'weird' results have been here ALWAYS...check older games...

what is interesting though is that bad scoring ration always happens to same people...so maybe it's not all the fault of the ME?

having said that, since I train Italy, I've checked many tactic. With most of them I get chances etc. but I have problems with finishing - but every time I change to one 433 tactic, suddenly there are lots of goals...
2012-10-24 19:46:52
Greg, thank You for making once really nice game crappiest game ever. I'm guessing that You were using Yourselve as a template for making more realistic behaviour in the game 'cause players are acting like their IQ is somewhere around 20, even with divine PM. Keep on the good work, I'm guessing that sokker would still attract some people who find fliping a coin as an ultimate fun.
2012-10-24 19:49:09
:D nice writen...
2012-10-25 14:02:49
There are some stupid decisions, but in general this engine is a move in a proper direction - though with huge flaws

still, when you consider older engine versions, you will see that sokker progressed...

do you remember the days, when players didn't run sideways? because there were times, when players run only in one way, forward

there were times when there were through passes from defenders to strikers, one after another

now the game is really nice - the playmaking, combinations, changing direction of running etc.

the only problem are stupid decisions [backpasses, stupid passes of strikers etc.] - but this can be changed...
2012-10-25 22:28:11
now the game is really nice - the playmaking, combinations, changing direction of running etc.

I agree with you about this... I hope there will be some change about the goal shoots. This is the only problem. And the double divine defenders isn't good enough.

the only problem are stupid decisions [backpasses, stupid passes of strikers etc.] - but this can be changed...



This could be easy. With ATT option a striker need bring the ball. If you would like the striker pass more, "take your striker with MID option". In the old ME, when I was the hungarian NT coach, I did this against Romania, and Norway, and the striker passed the ball(this was good against a deep defensive system)

Romania-Hungary

Hungary-Norway

Without ATT option...

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2012-10-26 19:02:24
Hellas U21 2 : 1 Srbija U21

KM Tactics hellas
50% Possession 50%
60% Play in the half 40%
9 Shots 19
2 Fouls 0
0 Yellow cards 0
0 Red cards 0
4 Offsides 2
58.8 average mark 60.1
solid Shooting excellent
very good Passing solid
excellent Defending formidable

GREG ARE U NORMAL?

fuking sokker. sokker is dead for sure
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2012-10-26 19:06:29
sokker is dead because u lost 2:1?

regards,
Zorro
2012-10-26 19:07:19
you watch and tell me somethin then
2012-10-26 19:10:08
well, since you posted the stats only, you quite obviously are trying to refer that sokker is dead, because the opponent won, though he had less shots on goal.
2012-10-26 19:14:36
no becouse opponent won.
becouse is sokker shit.

whay shit?

We had 19 shots, 10 of which situations 1 on 1, our strikers have 14-14-14 striker
our keeper 18 keeper 16 pace.

opponent have 9 shots, two goals.

if we deserved to lose, then you're a jerk
and if you can not see the difference
2012-10-26 19:23:32
First shot... wide
2nd... GK blocked it
3rd.... totally wide!
4th ... blocked
5th.... wide
6th... caught
7th... blocked (most clear chance so far)

the first shot... all alone!! .... no doubt it was a goal. (0-1)

8th shot... corner kick... header very wide!
9th shot.... now THAT could have been a goal... bounce back to your forward at the penalty shot and the GK had an impressive block.
10th shot... very high.


2nd & 3rd shot of Greece: another huge counter... you leave his two forwards alone vs. your GK. Your defense is way too high. GK manage to block one shot but not two. Bad defense tactic in my opinion.

11th shot... very high.
12th...from outside the big area. shot caught by GK.
13th... very wide
14th.... easy shot, caught by GK
15th... header from a cross, too wide.
16th....free kick, header, way off.
17th... shot from VERY far away, caught by GK.
(not ONE clear chance from your team on 35 mins on the second half!!)

18th...great long pass (best one in the game) and the GK manages to block a 1 vs 1 scenario.
Penalty kick score.
19th... lost shot block by gk.



In summary: I think the game was very normal.

With the exception of shots 9 and 18th where the GKs seemed like a wall. Maybe too good, though they can be superdivine in Keeper already. And he changed GK without really needing to... BOTH GKs are divine form!! So that is a huge advantage for them.

You had some weaknesses in your DEF tactic and thus gave them two free goals pretty much.
2012-10-26 19:27:43
Are you really complaining with those stats??? Are you really??? Give me a break..

58.8 v. 60.1??? that is a BIG difference too you?? You clearly have no clue what you are talking about.

You know... I also complain about problems with the current ME, but with more solid points. You are mad about your lose, agreed, I would be too. But as I just mentioned, there are only two shots that I see that could have really gone in had there not been a Superdivine GK with Divine form blocking them!!!
And one shot was the play of the penalty. So in a best scenario for you, you could have gotten away with a 2-2 tie. Maybe there is a bug that made you put a very aggressive defensive line very high like if you had all divine pace defenders or something.

I really dislike when people complain to just complain.... because we lose focus on the real problems and also, when someone comes with a REAL complain, it just gets lost because the mods get used to having people complain for this types of things. It does not help.

2012-10-26 19:38:02
our striker

Stanimir Stojačić, age: 21 - 13 striker

club: Таћа Јунајтед, country: Srbija,
value: 52 140 000 din, wage: 452 000 din,
divine [17] form, formidable [11] tactical discipline,
height: 173 cm, ·weight: 70.4282 kg

Slavoljub Đuričanin, age: 21 - 14 striker

club: Thunders Łowicz, country: Srbija,
value: 74 180 000 din, wage: 652 000 din,
superdivine [17] form, solid [8] tactical discipline,
height: 189 cm, ·weight: 90.3728 kg

Branimir Ivekić, age: 20 - 14 striker

club: The Alternative, country: Srbija,
value: 44 380 000 din, wage: 402 000 din,
divine [17] form, very good [9] tactical discipline,
height: 177 cm, ·weight: 76.2064 kg


Slavko Božinović, age: 21 - 14 striker

club: kmf lenger, country: Srbija,
value: 61 500 000 din, wage: 558 000 din,
unearthly [16] form, outstanding [12] tactical discipline,
height: 176 cm, ·weight: 73.3345 kg


his striker

Haris Saleas, age: 20 - two goals

club: ΠΑΣ Γιάννινα 1966, country: Hellas,
value: 53 420 000 din, wage: 490 000 din,
brilliant [14] form, adequate [6] tactical discipline,

Nikos Giannelos, age: 21

club: leopoldo, country: Hellas,
value: 65 720 000 din, wage: 608 000 din,
unearthly [16] form, incredible [13] tactical discipline,

let me point to our three Strykers 18 shots 1 goal
his two strikers 9 shots 2 goal (bad striker 2 goal)
2012-10-26 19:48:28
just in stats, I agree with you.

In game.. VERY different. Both his goals came from 1 vs 1 scenarios even before getting in the area... it was 1/4 field position. So all alone for that long time it was easier to score.. and second score was on a second shot because the other forward got the bounce. Had you had a DEFENDER then he could have gotten the bounce.

As I said.. maybe you did deserve a goal extra, but the goals from Greece where do to your defensive tactic and not their form or skill power.
2012-10-26 19:52:23
and we had a situation much 1 on 1.
why did not give 3 goals? our strikers is better for sure.

luck ? i dont think so.
2012-10-26 19:53:22
mattn to mattn
This game sucks, all those chances , failed by att impossible

2012-10-26 19:52:27
mattn to mattn
0-0 eliminated, we had to win for sure 40 fy fy fy ME greg !!


and i dont alone :)