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Subject: Winner World Cup XII

2013-03-09 19:19:44
Just saw suomi - hrvatska game, it was even game which could have ended either way...

Hrvatska got more shot's because our defender had problems with their winger, but our central defs took those crosses nicely and most of hrvatska shoots were weak header from long distance (long for header).

We had maybe better goal scoring changes than our opponent had...
2013-03-09 19:43:21
In all honesty: I really don't like the Suomi tactics, with the offensive mids. There is just a huge gap between defending players and attacking players and the only idea seems to be to kick the ball forward as soon as possible. With such a tactic, every chance you create is just a matter of good fortune. But apparently, it's weirdly effective.
2013-03-09 23:12:07
well, I was only speaking about no match against us Your shoe in general Your tactics are quite out of date and I rarely see a match Poland dominating even against teams Which defenders would use English as a star midfielders for Their teams having in mind difference in quality of players Between Poland and most of the other nations.

Hehe - maybe can see the matches Poland against Italy and Estonia on the World Cup. Last season was unsuccessful, ok, it's true. However this season is completely different. Poland had certainly not better players from other top teams (look i.e. note match POL - HRV). We have only advantage in the number of players.
3xdivine/superdivine ATT, 2xsuperdivie DEF, and MID with magical/unearthly/divine skills -> each team of the TOP are no such players.

And yes, red cards could be somewhat provoked, at least by the fact the bad positioned player has much higher chances to lose a duel vs player with lower skills and make a foul.

Yeah!:P Look Your today match -> You have many fouls (back side, rear side) and You have got only one yellow card. I recently had 3 fouls (including one from the front superdivine DEF in superdivine form -> finished red card) and got 2x red and 1 yellow. It is a random, rather than any 'red card is provokate'.

How can provoke a red card at the front of the attack superdivine DEF in superdivine form? Please explain it to me - then I must admit - You are right :)

@Hautsi - yes, also I got the same impression watching Your today game.
2013-03-10 02:29:24
Poland had certainly not better players from other top teams (look i.e. note match POL - HRV). We have only advantage in the number of players.

You are just kidding, right? Trust me, Ząbek would be our first or second choice Today, even with current form and that guy has 1 NT cap for Poland (and that was probably U-21 match). Also, we had exactly one player who is superdivine in def Today and last season we were using unearthly defenders quite often due form issues. so, back to my original post, it's obvious problem in Your tactics that makes Your players "not better" then other top teams, 'cause there is at least 5 skills average difference per player between Croatia (I'm pretty sure that You can put both WC finalists in pretty much the same category) and Poland first team, with Poland also having players in better form due much bigger number of players.

The saddest part is probably that new ME was supposed to be perfect for Poland domination (not trying to suggest that was the reason behind of ME changes), because once other countries were finally able to reach levels of Your players in "main" skills, the importance of secondaries was significantly raised.

also, maybe You should read once again what I wrote about provoking red cards...

And yes, red cards could be somewhat provoked, at least by the fact the bad positioned player has much higher chances to lose a duel vs player with lower skills and make a foul .

So, I never said nothing about the increasing chances that particular foul would result in a red card ('cause I'm quite sure that this part is pure random in scripts), just that positioning of the players could result in making more or less fouls. The funny part is that You actually said the same thing in Your post and I can agree that large number of fouls Croatia made against Finland was due fact that our mids and defs were bad placed in some areas. Also, random was quite on our side when speaking about number of cards in both quarterfinal and semifinal match.
2013-03-10 02:51:40
the importance of secondaries was significantly raised.

not really. the main thing that was raised is random...some time ago you couldn't stop divine technique from behind, but on the other hand divine tech striker rarely could dribble from front a divine defender...

now superdivine defenders in form [magical+] are dribbled from front and superdivine technicians are tackled from behind...it's all luck, unfortunately :(
2013-03-10 09:51:51
congrats to the winners.

I also want to thank all the fanatic managers who train Eesti NT players to their high age and make a tremendous contribution to the success of our NT.
2013-03-10 12:36:47
But better than Zabek is Your Malanica, which is on TA;) Večeralo playing will be in first '11' in PL - TOP 3 polish ATT with this sideskills. So You little exaggerating in to the first choice about Zabek;) We have a larger selection of players - that's right. But we have 4-5 key players and if they are 'under form', then our advantage is significantly reduced when the opponent has the top players in the forms.

About fouls and cards the same thing we say. I don't pretend to anyone that I got red cards. Yes, that's random.
Fact - players can be positioning in such a way to try to increase the number of fouls. But in uor match, I had only three fouls and I got a cards for each (including 2x red) - it's probably a little bit exaggerated:P Especially because one of them was an attack from the front superdivine DEF in max form.

If You so unhappy engine random yesterday, then You would ended match in 8-9 players, looking at the number fouls from behind;)

About te ME - imo Borkos write all;)

As if it was not - You played a great World Cup and congratulations are to Hrvatska :)
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2013-03-10 12:44:10
everything and everywhere is about poland, is that right ?

congratulation to finalists !
2013-03-10 13:08:12
I remember this game when I make some genius tactic Kondori - Pomioty Szatana 4:2 I just position my players perfect and my oponnent didn't have any chance, he had to make so many fouls and of course get so many cards

So when croatian teams playing against polish then we play on same way....red card tactic :))
2013-03-10 13:28:35
lol, you really believe that you have an impact on red cards? :D

so your coach made a bad tactic yesterday, because he made 8 fouls and many of them were from behind? :P
2013-03-10 16:29:46
ok Kuksa, maybe You know answer for my question:P I still don't have answers to one simple question: how can provoke a red card at the front attack superdivine DEF in superdivine form to ATT? Please explain it to me - then I must admit - You are right :)

You know better position to receive ball by defender? :)
2013-03-10 18:47:04
This is the secret that only few people know, so I just can't tell you. In Croatia we have meeting few times in year in which we are talking about things like this situation. We take lot of beers and that is great combination to learn how to provoke red card :)

You just have to come to one of the meeting and we will share our secret with you
2013-03-10 19:35:45
would you mind answering the question? :P

"so your coach made a bad tactic yesterday, because he made 8 fouls and many of them were from behind? :P"
2013-03-10 23:41:03
Suomi-Hellas 3-3.
And Suomi at final of Wc.Thats a victory for Hellas also..because i heard something for weak managers and teams..
Another thing i want to say is congratulation to Norge and Suomi.GOOD LUCK TO THE FINAL!Let the best win!
2013-03-11 14:17:32
I didnt use the best players against u.
2013-03-11 17:49:25
..and you still were better in the game.