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Subject: game is dead ? what would you change
People dont like to be told : Do or die! Well thats what gregs doing, but he has done so for many years and we see the results. Lets just see how this farce is going to continue. Well I consider this game dead allready quite some time so no disappointment for me if it vanishes out of a suddden.
i like this game, specially the 2D viewer, so i hope it doesnt vanish
but i do hope the developers improve a couple things. didnt they do a poll or something? i would like to see the results
but i do hope the developers improve a couple things. didnt they do a poll or something? i would like to see the results
somebody posted a comment from damian
he said that he had no idea about this change, it was greg's idea...
he said that he had no idea about this change, it was greg's idea...
facebook sokker page:
Sokker Manager
Do not be upset, everything will be fixed :)
Trust us :)
I don't know if they think reducing the delay time is the way to fix the problem
Sokker Manager
Do not be upset, everything will be fixed :)
Trust us :)
I don't know if they think reducing the delay time is the way to fix the problem
You give me hope in my heart Donald79! Helping to keep the plus user numbers up!
Greg deserves at least one holiday villa so he can go there to get away from the moaners.
Greg deserves at least one holiday villa so he can go there to get away from the moaners.
They facebook account is run by some italian MOD, no?
not anymore, well, I was admin (edit. of facebook page i mean) months and months ago :)
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When I was in Stjordal a couple of weeks ago, two beers cost me the same as a years plus subscription! Now that is value for money! Anyway we'll see you in a year or two when you are still playing sokker! :)
The problem isn't the cost of the plus, I think too that the cost is low, but the problem is the way to obtain it. This is a very bad appealing for new users or non plus users. Many of these will leave the game. With less manager the game will be poor and without future, and I don't want to play in a online manager game with a low number of players, because it means less competitivity, less fun!
This is the problem, the cost is the last problem I think.
By referring about the question in the title of the topic, I will change the way to obtain money. More ads for instance, or different way of ads. Sokker could ask to click a banner if a non plus user want to see a match for instance, or maybe could apply the same way of ads like youtube. There are simple examples, I think that there are other ways.
The worse way is joking about the users, the customers of the game
The problem isn't the cost of the plus, I think too that the cost is low, but the problem is the way to obtain it. This is a very bad appealing for new users or non plus users. Many of these will leave the game. With less manager the game will be poor and without future, and I don't want to play in a online manager game with a low number of players, because it means less competitivity, less fun!
This is the problem, the cost is the last problem I think.
By referring about the question in the title of the topic, I will change the way to obtain money. More ads for instance, or different way of ads. Sokker could ask to click a banner if a non plus user want to see a match for instance, or maybe could apply the same way of ads like youtube. There are simple examples, I think that there are other ways.
The worse way is joking about the users, the customers of the game
Anyway i'm still asking my self why did admins delete my thread (600secs TO...sokker's death)
I seem to remember on another forum people moaning about there being too much advertising already.
Better than 6 minutes at the begin:
Only 3 minutes but:
1 minute at the begin
1 minute at 45th min.
1 minute at 80th min.
Those 3 min. will bee seen!
During those actually 6 min, what will do the user? not seeing the pub.
Only 3 minutes but:
1 minute at the begin
1 minute at 45th min.
1 minute at 80th min.
Those 3 min. will bee seen!
During those actually 6 min, what will do the user? not seeing the pub.
If we can say sokker admins made a very good game, we can surely say they were not smart in making money on it. They are killing their own creation white making money on it.
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When I was in Stjordal a couple of weeks ago, two beers cost me the same as a years plus subscription! Now that is value for money!
Norway isn't a cheapest country in the world! Did You know it?)
It's not the price that we discust but the attitude of dev's to convince you that you need plus!
Talking of beer)) Imagine that You go to Your favorite Pub to watch for example Hearts-Kilmarnok but at the front door the guy ask You to show Your "VIP card"... But You do not have it! And You need to wait 600 seconds to enter the pub!
Or at the evening at the diner table Your wife ask You:
-Johny, did You buy Plus?
-No. Why?
-So do not touch the diner! You'll eat at 600 seconds!
Now it's more clear for You?
Norway isn't a cheapest country in the world! Did You know it?)
It's not the price that we discust but the attitude of dev's to convince you that you need plus!
Talking of beer)) Imagine that You go to Your favorite Pub to watch for example Hearts-Kilmarnok but at the front door the guy ask You to show Your "VIP card"... But You do not have it! And You need to wait 600 seconds to enter the pub!
Or at the evening at the diner table Your wife ask You:
-Johny, did You buy Plus?
-No. Why?
-So do not touch the diner! You'll eat at 600 seconds!
Now it's more clear for You?
Indeed, i bought plus on the day i started with sokker. I never stopped.
But now for the first time i am considering it because of i do not like to pushed. I like to be attracted (extra stats, arcade matches, associactions etc.)
I realy do not like that not-plususers can not watch games of other people. I think that was a bad decission when greg started with plus. But this decission is killing for the game. when someone starts sokker for the first time and watch his first game and he reads this.... he must be dedicated to stay.... how many people will be?
And how many of the current users without plus will be dedicated enough to stay?
It is not the price of plus, it is nmot that there be new ways to get more money, it is simply the way how.
5 minutes waiting for non-plususers is not the good way.
I would even more prefer to pay more money for plus (i would pay at easy 35 to 40 euro per year)
But now for the first time i am considering it because of i do not like to pushed. I like to be attracted (extra stats, arcade matches, associactions etc.)
I realy do not like that not-plususers can not watch games of other people. I think that was a bad decission when greg started with plus. But this decission is killing for the game. when someone starts sokker for the first time and watch his first game and he reads this.... he must be dedicated to stay.... how many people will be?
And how many of the current users without plus will be dedicated enough to stay?
It is not the price of plus, it is nmot that there be new ways to get more money, it is simply the way how.
5 minutes waiting for non-plususers is not the good way.
I would even more prefer to pay more money for plus (i would pay at easy 35 to 40 euro per year)
I agree, the amount for Plus is really cheap less than 2€ per month but what advantage we are to be plus only cosmétics, stats.
When I see others games, the advantage for paying people are given in the options for having best material, ( that it is not the case for sokker, and it does not begin like that).
That it is sure that the devs of this game would like to get more money (I hope to more develop this fantastic game). BUt definitely more than 1 minute wait before seeing his match is unacceptable for users.
So may be the PLUS users could be more listened by the devs. By example a specific Plus Forum, with answer by Devs or his representative aministration in the week. Week news on the game development...
Better Communication ans exchange with users would be a PLUS for this game.
When I see others games, the advantage for paying people are given in the options for having best material, ( that it is not the case for sokker, and it does not begin like that).
That it is sure that the devs of this game would like to get more money (I hope to more develop this fantastic game). BUt definitely more than 1 minute wait before seeing his match is unacceptable for users.
So may be the PLUS users could be more listened by the devs. By example a specific Plus Forum, with answer by Devs or his representative aministration in the week. Week news on the game development...
Better Communication ans exchange with users would be a PLUS for this game.