Subject: game is dead ? what would you change

I agree, the amount for Plus is really cheap less than 2€ per month but what advantage we are to be plus only cosmétics, stats.

When I see others games, the advantage for paying people are given in the options for having best material, ( that it is not the case for sokker, and it does not begin like that).

That it is sure that the devs of this game would like to get more money (I hope to more develop this fantastic game). BUt definitely more than 1 minute wait before seeing his match is unacceptable for users.

So may be the PLUS users could be more listened by the devs. By example a specific Plus Forum, with answer by Devs or his representative aministration in the week. Week news on the game development...

Better Communication ans exchange with users would be a PLUS for this game.

" Imagine that You go to Your favorite Pub to watch for example Hearts-Kilmarnok but at the front door the guy ask You to show Your "VIP card"... But You do not have it! And You need to wait 600 seconds to enter the pub!"

Hmmm, not that I'd watch Hearts in a million years but if it was Celtic-Kilmarnock I'd slip the doorman £20 and hey presto, I'm in! Screw waiting outside for a laugh.

Seriously if they scrapped plus altogether & just asked users for donations do you think they would make more money? Would be a risky move but you never know.

That's not the best example, because if you would've seen Celtic-Kilmarnock free for let's say, 50 years in a row, and now a doorman asks you a VIP card, you'd spit in his face. Anyways, i hope greg will reconsider this move.

Celtic v Kilmarnock is still a bad example, those soda dodging weegies have been spitting in faces for 50 years in a row anyway.

Seriously if they scrapped plus altogether & just asked users for donations do you think they would make more money?
Yes

Hmmm, not that I'd watch Hearts in a million years but if it was Celtic-Kilmarnock I'd slip the doorman £20 and hey presto, I'm in! Screw waiting outside for a laugh.
It was 1st a wrote))) Celtic-Kilmanrock ))

But this attitude to "force" users to buy plus shows that they do not realy respect users, we are only a "money bags" for them (or Greg)

If amount of users and plus users drops and game is going dead (also greg will not have any finacial benefits) I think selling game is really the best option. Greg will earn a lot and game will survive at the same time..

I am pretty sure there are sokker fans out there with a little bit of money laying around willing to buy and invest money into sokker.

it's already been said. most of these guys are working and some of them are even businessmen and I think they would be interested to buy this game. If I would have the money even I would think about it. It can make profit I'm sure :) but cards must be played much better cause Greg is a terrible player.

Some time ago greg said that he doesn't want to sell sokker, unfortunately. Although it might've changed...

all these plus changes are making me sick ... if you dont want to wait ... buy plus ... wtf ... it was a better way as it was ... the difference between a plus user and a non plus were the statistics and the ability to watch all games ... but now it's like a discrimination ...

Never underestimate the amount of money that comes in from advertising! This game should survive even without the 'plus'-option, just making income from the ads.

To me it's easy, I'm picking up this game after a stop of about over a year. Why? I think this game is interesting, but it's no way near a top game. I choose not to pay for 'plus'. I do pay for games like Football Manager though, a sophisticated game run by professionals.

How much sense this game has? Not much :P

Today I've played 2 games with Adameczek, because there was some kind of bug and we had 2 arcade games

same forms, same players, same tactics. zero injuries, zero red cards. results:

first game
5:1 for me, 15:6 in shots. ratings 66.4 vs 66.4

second game
2:2, 12:7 in shots. ratings 66.3 vs 67.1

I guess you've found the random factor among the dark matter and dark energy :D

Yeah, Barca playes game they win 5-0 and games where they cant score.... scoring is like in RL very luck based, much can happen... you need to look at chances, and in both matches there is big simularity..... people need to stop calling it random, it is football, results are never given, its not a math quiz....

You cant compare it with RL, sokker is mathematics, in the same conditions there should be the same result. There has never been a situations where you can compare two matches played in exactly the same conditions, until now :) So i wont call it random, but probably there's something more behind simple math equations there. Which is called...random :P

How about..you are both right..:-)